Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?

Well, if I was consulting someone and your OP was all the info I has my first question would be, where are you looking to host, on-premise or off site?

If you're looking off site, there if is definitely benefits to hosting on Azure if you have a certain M 365 subscriptions, as well as certain limitations if you don't. WVD is the only place where multi-user Windows 10 is a available. If off site and not Azure, either the hosting company need to be a QMTH or you need a dedicated physical server to your company in order to run Windows 10 and Office 365 apps.

JasGot

They have an app that does not run well over WAN or VPN. Some users just had their desktop PCs swapped out for Laptops so they can work from home. The problem is, "They have an app that does not run well over WAN or VPN".

So I need them to RDP to an RDS Host or Windows 10 VM onsite.

I am looking for a detailed path for licensing. The new laptops have OEM Windows 10 Pro.

The problem I have with the PDF below, is that I am too literal. Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. Most people see 1 and 10 as additional options; I don't.

So, for example, is this statement in the PDF referring to the off-site laptop, or the OS inside the VM on the Host located in the main office?

Generally, and with limitations found below, you must have one of the following licenses to run and access a virtual
machine running Windows 10:

What I need to see, to be certain I am compliant, is a statement like this:
The VM OS must be one of: Blah Blah, Blah Blah, or Blah Blah and the remote OS accessing the VM must be: Blah Blah, Blah Blah, or Blah Blah.

When it comes to licensing, I accept no ambiguity.

Obsolesce

@JasGot said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

They have an app that does not run well over WAN or VPN. Some users just had their desktop PCs swapped out for Laptops so they can work from home. The problem is, "They have an app that does not run well over WAN or VPN".

So I need them to RDP to an RDS Host or Windows 10 VM onsite.

I am looking for a detailed path for licensing. The new laptops have OEM Windows 10 Pro.

The problem I have with the PDF below, is that I am too literal. Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. Most people see 1 and 10 as additional options; I don't.

So, for example, is this statement in the PDF referring to the off-site laptop, or the OS inside the VM on the Host located in the main office?
Generally, and with limitations found below, you must have one of the following licenses to run and access a virtual
machine running Windows 10:
What I need to see, to be certain I am compliant, is a statement like this:
The VM OS must be one of: Blah Blah, Blah Blah, or Blah Blah and the remote OS accessing the VM must be: Blah Blah, Blah Blah, or Blah Blah.

When it comes to licensing, I accept no ambiguity.

If the user is properly licensed, it doesn't matter what they use at home.

JasGot

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

If the user is properly licensed, it doesn't matter what they use at home.

It's not a BYOD environment. Th laptop at home is owned by the employer.

Also, for a a BYOD device, it says right there in your pic that they need a VDA license.

Obsolesce

@JasGot said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

If the user is properly licensed, it doesn't matter what they use at home.

It's not a BYOD environment. Th laptop at home is owned by the employer.

Also, for a a BYOD device, it says right there in your pic that they need a VDA license.

The BYOD part is irrelevant.

flaxking

If a device is licenced with Windows 10 Enterprise with SA, the primary use of that device can access windows 10 on VDI from that device. If the primary user of that device needs to access Windows 10 VDI from another device there is an add-on licence that can be purchased. It looks like they no longer me too it in the licencing brief. It might help to look at older licencing briefs since the focus is mostly on per user licences now.

scottalanmiller

@JasGot said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

So I need them to RDP to an RDS Host or Windows 10 VM onsite.

Rule of them, if RDS works, you choose that. VDI is more overhead and more cost and exists solely for situations where the application is not written to Windows standards and not compatible with RDS. In theory, no one should ever need or want it, in reality, loads of terrible software is used constantly in the Windows world.

This is why VDI is unique to Windows. While any OS can do VDI, even mentioning VDI people just assume Windows because no other OS ecosystem needs it. So by and large, you just rule it out except for... when you can't.

It's like SAN. It's a terrible choice, until there is no other choice, then it's awesome.

scottalanmiller

@JasGot said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

When it comes to licensing, I accept no ambiguity.

Nor does Microsoft, so that's a good way to be.

scottalanmiller

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

The same, because that's what they said. Although I almost never hear that, normally it is from 1 to 10, which is inclusive of both 1 & 10, but between is exclusive of them.

Obsolesce

@scottalanmiller said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

The same, because that's what they said. Although I almost never hear that, normally it is from 1 to 10, which is inclusive of both 1 & 10, but between is exclusive of them.

I didn't say that, misquoted?

scottalanmiller

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@scottalanmiller said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

The same, because that's what they said. Although I almost never hear that, normally it is from 1 to 10, which is inclusive of both 1 & 10, but between is exclusive of them.

I didn't say that, misquoted?

That's so weird. I wonder how it grabbed that.

JasGot

@scottalanmiller said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

Rule of them, if RDS works, you choose that

RDS works. That what they are using right now.
Everyone RDPs into a Terminal Server and is happy.

stacksofplates

@scottalanmiller said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@scottalanmiller said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

@Obsolesce said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

Meaning, when someone says pick a number between 1 and 10, I see the only options as choosing a number from the following: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

The same, because that's what they said. Although I almost never hear that, normally it is from 1 to 10, which is inclusive of both 1 & 10, but between is exclusive of them.

I didn't say that, misquoted?

That's so weird. I wonder how it grabbed that.

If you highlight text and hit quote it uses that as the quote and not the actual post. I read sometimes by highlighting with my mouse as I'm reading. That's bitten me a few times on here.

JasGot

@stacksofplates said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

I read sometimes by highlighting with my mouse as I'm reading.

Almost 100% of the time for me too. Especially if I have to look away..... I'll highlight the last few words I've read.

coliver

@stacksofplates said in Is there a MS Licensing expert here regarding remote OSes?:

I read sometimes by highlighting with my mouse as I'm reading.

Same.