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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @DarienA
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      @DarienA said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

      @Dashrender said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

      @DarienA said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

      @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

      Why not just use Firefox? They have a dedicated password manager now, and it is higher quality than the password storage features in Chrome and the like.

      For me the answer is centralized policy control. There are a variety of tweaks I can make to LastPass users usage. Forcing master password changes, forcing 2FA, having a master account to force resets for users who fail password recovery, limiting access, etc.

      So this is for business users??

      The Enterprise version is a multi-user business version yes. They offer LastPass in a variety of different flavors for personal and business use.

      whoops - I assumed you were the OP based on your comment about "for me" - my mistake, this is Pete's thread.

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        1337 @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

        @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

        @black3dynamite said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

        @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

        Why not just use Firefox? They have a dedicated password manager now, and it is higher quality than the password storage features in Chrome and the like.

        Unless the user is using Firefox sync, if the hard drive crap out or their Windows profile, they will lose all their passwords.

        Based on the OPs description they would have to be using FF sync, if it was on the table, to meet the requirements.

        Those are my thoughts too. It's easy, built-in, no extra things to worry about.

        All you need to do is tell them to use FireFox and sign in and sync.

        It works on all devices, even phone. And you can retrieve a username/password if needed.

        I think client is on edge or chrome but regardless of that it's a good idea.

        I didn't know that Firefox had expanded their portfolio and now have something called Firefox Lockwise.
        https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/lockwise/

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @1337
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          @Pete-S said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

          @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

          @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

          @black3dynamite said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

          @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

          Why not just use Firefox? They have a dedicated password manager now, and it is higher quality than the password storage features in Chrome and the like.

          Unless the user is using Firefox sync, if the hard drive crap out or their Windows profile, they will lose all their passwords.

          Based on the OPs description they would have to be using FF sync, if it was on the table, to meet the requirements.

          Those are my thoughts too. It's easy, built-in, no extra things to worry about.

          All you need to do is tell them to use FireFox and sign in and sync.

          It works on all devices, even phone. And you can retrieve a username/password if needed.

          I think client is on edge or chrome but regardless of that it's a good idea.

          I didn't know that Firefox had expanded their portfolio and now have something called Firefox Lockwise.
          https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/lockwise/

          That's pretty cool!

          Now they need to make a plug in for Chrome

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @1337
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            @Pete-S said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

            @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

            @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

            @black3dynamite said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

            @Kelly said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

            Why not just use Firefox? They have a dedicated password manager now, and it is higher quality than the password storage features in Chrome and the like.

            Unless the user is using Firefox sync, if the hard drive crap out or their Windows profile, they will lose all their passwords.

            Based on the OPs description they would have to be using FF sync, if it was on the table, to meet the requirements.

            Those are my thoughts too. It's easy, built-in, no extra things to worry about.

            All you need to do is tell them to use FireFox and sign in and sync.

            It works on all devices, even phone. And you can retrieve a username/password if needed.

            I think client is on edge or chrome but regardless of that it's a good idea.

            I didn't know that Firefox had expanded their portfolio and now have something called Firefox Lockwise.
            https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/lockwise/

            Maybe Edge Chromium could be a good candidate to try. That's what I'm using and have been using as my main browser for over a year now. At this point, it's very polished and I've never had any issues with it. You can sign in and sync almost everything, and it also works on all devices including phones. Same concept as FireFox, but there are Group Policies for controlling it now. For business, it may work out better than FireFox.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

              and it also works on all devices including phones.

              Except Linux?

              chredge.png

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                and it also works on all devices including phones.

                Except Linux?

                chredge.png

                😢

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                  @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                  and it also works on all devices including phones.

                  Except Linux?

                  chredge.png

                  So literally nothing that I have. Probably doesn't work on BSD, either.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                    @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                    @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                    and it also works on all devices including phones.

                    Except Linux?

                    chredge.png

                    So literally nothing that I have. Probably doesn't work on BSD, either.

                    I'm basing my suggestion off of the OP.

                    I was assuming "ordinary users using O365" was Windows PCs and if not, Android/Mac/Ios. That's also why I mentioned GPO, because of the Windows assumption. I highly doubt he's looking for BSD compatibility.

                    @Pete-S want to clear up the OS requirements for us, otherwise you have people assuming BSD compatibility needs.

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                      1337 @Obsolesce
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                      @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                      @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                      @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                      and it also works on all devices including phones.

                      Except Linux?

                      chredge.png

                      So literally nothing that I have. Probably doesn't work on BSD, either.

                      I'm basing my suggestion off of the OP.

                      I was assuming "ordinary users using O365" was Windows PCs and if not, Android/Mac/Ios. That's also why I mentioned GPO, because of the Windows assumption. I highly doubt he's looking for BSD compatibility.

                      @Pete-S want to clear up the OS requirements for us, otherwise you have people assuming BSD compatibility needs.

                      Yeah, users are on windows and android/ios.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                        @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                        I was assuming "ordinary users using O365" was Windows PCs

                        We used to be an all Linux O365 shop. They exist.

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                          thecreaitvone91 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                          @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                          I was assuming "ordinary users using O365" was Windows PCs

                          We used to be an all Linux O365 shop. They exist.

                          Not sure how Email services implies desktop OS.. That's like saying everyone using gmail is using Chrome Books or AOL users still have AOL Dial up lol.

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                            Obsolesce @thecreaitvone91
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                            @thecreaitvone91 said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                            @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                            I was assuming "ordinary users using O365" was Windows PCs

                            We used to be an all Linux O365 shop. They exist.

                            Not sure how Email services implies desktop OS.. That's like saying everyone using gmail is using Chrome Books or AOL users still have AOL Dial up lol.

                            It's the nature of the entire context of the original post. A lot on here like to strawman, which throws things way off all the time, like now.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                              I'm basing my suggestion off of the OP.

                              @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                              It's the nature of the entire context of the original post. A lot on here like to strawman, which throws things way off all the time, like now.

                              Nothing in the context of the original post implies any OS at all. "Ordinary users" implies nothing. We almost all have ordinary users on O365 with Chromebooks, MacOS, Linux, etc. Using "strawman" to mean "solid argument" doesn't make it a bad point. Windows is very likely part of the equation, but there is a good chance it isn't all of it. And whether it is or not, it purely a guess until we are told.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                "solid argument"

                                Not as solid as your BSD assumption I guess.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                  @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                  "solid argument"

                                  Not as solid as your BSD assumption I guess.

                                  My assumption that BSD is not supported by Edge because they've not gotten around to Linux yet? Not sure what you are trying to imply, but it doesn't seem to make sense. The BSD assumption is extremely obvious and accurate.

                                  Also not an assumption because I had already checked. So your assumption that it was an assumption, was wrong.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    We aren't all big companies with endless money and no need to save money. Lots of us are MSPs and as MSPs we see all kinds of stuff and have to support Linux, we don't have the luxury of having only one OS and getting to assume that no other OS will ever exist for our users.

                                    Here, we have hundreds of clients either rolling out or looking to roll out Linux (and often Linux on ARM) because it is what makes sense for their businesses, especially as their pockets aren't as deep as they used to be and they need places to save money and dropping 90% of the cost per workstation is a big deal to them. These are tiny, non-technical users in little SMBs.

                                    That and Chromebooks are picking up.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                      "solid argument"

                                      Not as solid as your BSD assumption I guess.

                                      My assumption that BSD is not supported by Edge because they've not gotten around to Linux yet? Not sure what you are trying to imply, but it doesn't seem to make sense. The BSD assumption is extremely obvious and accurate.

                                      Also not an assumption because I had already checked. So your assumption that it was an assumption, was wrong.

                                      Edge Chromium not supporting BSD is totally irrelevant here, that's my point. I assumed you brought it up because you assumed Pete's users are all runnimg BSD and was a factor in this. But it was just a spinoff to something besides any relevant point.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                        and it also works on all devices including phones.

                                        Except Linux?

                                        chredge.png

                                        I'm seriously thinking they are holding out releasing a Linux version until history and open tabs is done.
                                        103073ef-1e5e-4073-b92c-890089442122-image.png

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                                          thecreaitvone91 @black3dynamite
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                                          @black3dynamite said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                          @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                          and it also works on all devices including phones.

                                          Except Linux?

                                          chredge.png

                                          I'm seriously thinking they are holding out releasing a Linux version until history and open tabs is done.
                                          103073ef-1e5e-4073-b92c-890089442122-image.png

                                          I wouldn't be surprised. Edge is built on chromium and Microsoft has supported Linux with a lot of there release recently, Azure data studio, Teams, .net just to name a few.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @black3dynamite
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                                            @black3dynamite said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Password manager for ordinary users?:

                                            and it also works on all devices including phones.

                                            Except Linux?

                                            chredge.png

                                            I'm seriously thinking they are holding out releasing a Linux version until history and open tabs is done.
                                            103073ef-1e5e-4073-b92c-890089442122-image.png

                                            They don't have a history? Or is that just a history sync or something?

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