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      JasGot @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

      I was talking about IRJ's response with making the client go to the cloud.
      I understood why they likely had a local server.

      Cool. I missed that. And I do appreciate your comments earlier... all good points.

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        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

        It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

        Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

          It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

          Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

          Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

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            1337 @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

            It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

            Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

            Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

            It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

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              DustinB3403 @1337
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              @Pete-S said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

              It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

              Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

              Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

              It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

              Ha. yeah I get it I totally do. And you can get a rack for pennies on the dollar if you are really looking.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @Pete-S said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

                Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

                Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

                It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

                You need to work with the SMB more. It's rare that someone has rack space. Like, really rare.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                  @Pete-S said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                  It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

                  Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

                  Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

                  It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

                  Ha. yeah I get it I totally do. And you can get a rack for pennies on the dollar if you are really looking.

                  Cost of the rack isn't the issue. Space to put it that is safe, clean, has power, central to the cabling, can be cooled, etc.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Working with things like vets, doctors, dentists, etc. you find that... almost no one could put a rack in a safe place. There just isn't room, physically.

                    I've worked with even a small school that was in the same boat. Literally no place to place a rack.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                      Literally no place to place a rack.

                      racks can be hung from a wall or ceiling if things are literally so desperate.

                      How are these places operating today if they have no where to place business infrastructure?

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                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                        Literally no place to place a rack.

                        racks can be hung from a wall or ceiling if things are literally so desperate.

                        How are these places operating today if they have no where to place business infrastructure?

                        By putting it on a desk

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                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                          Literally no place to place a rack.

                          racks can be hung from a wall or ceiling if things are literally so desperate.

                          How are these places operating today if they have no where to place business infrastructure?

                          By putting it on a desk

                          Then clearly there is space! Remove the flipping desk and put a closed door rack in place of it.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            This concept of "we have zero space to make our business run" literally aren't considering their business as a business but a hobby.

                            You need to have a set amount of space, resources, seating to do work. Everyone does.

                            Using the "Oh I'll buy a server and just throw it on a desk" and then have someone use said server as their workstation clearly is not considering the reality that they are just a hobbyist.

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                              DustinB3403
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                              Even @scottalanmiller mentioned the reality of starting to use ARM systems to act as servers.

                              Things that produce and use nearly no resources or space, but offer tons of potential for extremely low budgets.

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                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                Even @scottalanmiller mentioned the reality of starting to use ARM systems to act as servers.

                                Things that produce and use nearly no resources or space, but offer tons of potential for extremely low budgets.

                                That doesn’t mean they will ever bow to your demands for a rack.

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                                  wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  @Pete-S said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                  It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

                                  Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

                                  Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

                                  It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

                                  Ha. yeah I get it I totally do. And you can get a rack for pennies on the dollar if you are really looking.

                                  Cost of the rack isn't the issue. Space to put it that is safe, clean, has power, central to the cabling, can be cooled, etc.

                                  So, not here-
                                  3f76310c-9206-4120-9925-2be21d8de33c-image.png

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                    @wrx7m said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @Pete-S said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization when there is only one VM?:

                                    It's super simple to take a closet for example and put a vent near the top of the wall to let heat escape.

                                    Not if you don't have that closet, the vent would let in hotter air, or you don't have outside access from a closet.

                                    Of course, if you physically don't have any space, then using this example doesn't make sense. The question really is "at what point should a business start looking at different form factors (from the desktop style)?"

                                    It ridiculous to even think there is no space for a rack. Unless someone runs a company out of their bedroom. A rack takes what, 5 square feet?

                                    Ha. yeah I get it I totally do. And you can get a rack for pennies on the dollar if you are really looking.

                                    Cost of the rack isn't the issue. Space to put it that is safe, clean, has power, central to the cabling, can be cooled, etc.

                                    So, not here-
                                    3f76310c-9206-4120-9925-2be21d8de33c-image.png

                                    I see that as a productive use of extra space!

                                    You could even hang a 1/4 rack above the toilet to help get things cleaned up and organized.

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