Solved 3rd party spam filter solution pricing
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like it's based mostly on message volume, not the number of users.
LOL, that's pretty limited
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like it's based mostly on message volume, not the number of users.
LOL, that's pretty limited
Not a bad price, but "unlimited", it is not.LOL - it's unlimited email addresses - which is useless.
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like it's based mostly on message volume, not the number of users.
LOL, that's pretty limited
Not a bad price, but "unlimited", it is not.LOL - it's unlimited email addresses - which is useless.
Not completely, but pretty heavily. That's useful for people who have a bazillion variations of names for just a few people so that the other huge limits aren't a big deal. But I know of no person and certainly no business like this. And it's all those variations... within a single domain, a limit of 1. That's huge. I don't have a single customer with just a single domain these days. Tiny businesses like that must exist somewhere, but it's very uncommon. I know you (Dash) have more than one for your medical practice. I think NTG has somewhere around forty. Nearly every business has at least a couple.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like it's based mostly on message volume, not the number of users.
LOL, that's pretty limited
Not a bad price, but "unlimited", it is not.LOL - it's unlimited email addresses - which is useless.
Not completely, but pretty heavily. That's useful for people who have a bazillion variations of names for just a few people so that the other huge limits aren't a big deal. But I know of no person and certainly no business like this. And it's all those variations... within a single domain, a limit of 1. That's huge. I don't have a single customer with just a single domain these days. Tiny businesses like that must exist somewhere, but it's very uncommon. I know you (Dash) have more than one for your medical practice. I think NTG has somewhere around forty. Nearly every business has at least a couple.
sure - we do, but in reality - we could ditch the old one, we never use it for email.
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@scottalanmiller They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts. Not sure if this is good for the scenario you were describing or not. For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
If the $5 plan is unlimited, what causes the price to go up?
From their website:
Pricing - Those that sign up now will have access to the reseller program at no extra charge (forever). Existing and new subscriptions that are added to your reseller account will be billed at the reseller price (which is currently the same pricing you enjoy as a retail customer). In the future, we anticipate that current pricing will only be available to resellers, and rates for retail customers will increase.
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@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts. Not sure if this is good for the scenario you were describing or not. For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
If it all goes to the same mail server, that would still allow cPanel to do that. Those are basically always just one server.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
If it all goes to the same mail server, that would still allow cPanel to do that. Those are basically always just one server.
Huh?
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@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
Right, that's what I thought I was saying. I'm striking out too much today. Time to call it a night and have a drink
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@JaredBusch We use Mimecast and its great. Not sure about base pricing though.
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SpamExperts (warning owned by Solarwinds): There is one option where the price is per domain, no limits.
It is not perfect, but if you take some time training it it works very well. -
@dave_c said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
SpamExperts (warning owned by Solarwinds):
LOL, thanks for the warning
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
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@IRJ said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
Of course that makes sense - but customers rarely care about that.
This is the only spam filter that I've seen use message count and not user count.
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Huh - looks like I could lower my bill to $7/m
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@IRJ said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
Of course that makes sense - but customers rarely care about that.
This is the only spam filter that I've seen use message count and not user count.
I've definitely seen this and I agree that this is the best way to go. Doing it by user is necessarily expensive, like giving unlimited "per user" calls. Nothing is cheaper than paying per minute actually used.
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Looks like I'm paying $22.49/m right now.. Nice savings if I move.
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@Dashrender
Heluna charges based on clean email volume processed. -
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like I'm paying $22.49/m right now.. Nice savings if I move.
Looks like I'll save about $75 if I move.
