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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dave247
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      @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

      I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

      SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Of course, somewhere, someone actually doubles up the humans. Those crazy people need more CALs 🙂

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        • dave247D
          dave247 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

          @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

          I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

          SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

          So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @dave247
            last edited by

            @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

            @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

            @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

            I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

            SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

            So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

            Yes and you will have both running simultaneously to do fail over testing

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            • dave247D
              dave247 @IRJ
              last edited by dave247

              @IRJ said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

              @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

              @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

              @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

              I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

              SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

              So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

              Yes and you will have both running simultaneously to do fail over testing

              Anyone know off-hand if I can purchase Software Assurance after already having purchased my licenses? If not, guess we'll bite the bullet and purchase licensing for the warm site + get SA on all future purchases.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
                last edited by

                How many VMs are you restoring?

                It may be worth looking into restoring into Azure VM replication?

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @dave247
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                  @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                  @IRJ said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                  @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                  @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                  I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

                  SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

                  So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

                  Yes and you will have both running simultaneously to do fail over testing

                  Anyone know off-hand if I can purchase Software Assurance after already having purchased my licenses? If not, guess we'll bite the bullet and purchase licensing for the warm site + get SA on all future purchases.

                  I don't believe so.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dave247
                    last edited by

                    @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                    @IRJ said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                    @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                    @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                    I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

                    SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

                    So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

                    Yes and you will have both running simultaneously to do fail over testing

                    Anyone know off-hand if I can purchase Software Assurance after already having purchased my licenses? If not, guess we'll bite the bullet and purchase licensing for the warm site + get SA on all future purchases.

                    Yes, you often can, but it is more costly.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      @IRJ said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      @dave247 said in Looking for some insight/input for setting up a "hot site"/fail-over environment:

                      I found the info I needed in the Windows Server 2016 Licensing Guide and if I understand it correctly, we would need Software Assurance coverage with our licensing, which we do not have. We purchased licenses only (with necessary CALs).

                      SA is the standard way to do it. You can do it without SA by double purchasing all the licenses (but not the CALs, no need to double up there. The humans aren't being duplicated.) Obviously, SA is cheaper than that, and that's why everyone goes with SA.

                      So, in the case with replicating virtual machines through Veeam Backup & Replication and storing those powered off servers on a spare VMware ESXi server would require me to purchase additional MS licensing?

                      Yes and you will have both running simultaneously to do fail over testing

                      Anyone know off-hand if I can purchase Software Assurance after already having purchased my licenses? If not, guess we'll bite the bullet and purchase licensing for the warm site + get SA on all future purchases.

                      I don't believe so.

                      You actually can - but only for 90 days after purchase.

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                        mattbagan
                        last edited by mattbagan

                        We are just ending this project. The solution they chose was Zerto. We have gear in a colo with an EPL that allows for replication in real time. In the event of a disaster. I enable networking on my vms, change external DNS and we are good to go.

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