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    Hypervisors: revisit your choices!

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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      @FATeknollogee said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

      No Type 2 discussion here.

      Was having a discussion with myself & just wondering out loud........

      Tomorrow, if I was starting from scratch, I would use "........"

      Started in 05/06 with Virtual Iron (VI got "swallowed" by Oracle).
      then switched to Hyper-V (it was beta, back in the '06 timeframe).
      Since then, I've also tried some XenServer, oVirt & ESXi.
      Currently use KVM.

      Now back to that tomorrow statement....
      For a standalone setup, my 1st choice would be KVM + Virt-Manager.
      For a hyperconverged setup, my 1st choice would be VMware + VSAN.

      I'd never even bother with Hyper-V.

      My first choice is KVM, but that said I never use it at a client.

      Because I want tools for backups. So because of that need, I use Hyper-V and Veeam and such.

      That said Veeam's pricing is changing. So I will now have to determine if the work to script/handle KVM backups myself is no longer a lot more expensive than using Hyper-V + Veeam.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

        @Obsolesce said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

        Exactly my point.

        You obviously cannot comprehend what you read because he was most certaily not agreeing with you or making your point for you.

        Because your fucking point was to use VPS. Which has not a damned fucking thing to do with this discussion.

        The VPS was definitely NOT the point of anything I said. Not the point at all. I specified the point several times, the VPS part wasn't my point.

        I think it's you who fucking needs to fucking comprehend.

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        • brandon220B
          brandon220 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch Couldn't have said this better myself. I received the email from Veeam about the increase too, but all my current licenses are good through Dec 2020.
          If there was a good backup solution for KVM, I would have zero Hyper-V hosts.

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore @brandon220
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            @brandon220 said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

            @JaredBusch Couldn't have said this better myself. I received the email from Veeam about the increase too, but all my current licenses are good through Dec 2020.
            If there was a good backup solution for KVM, I would have zero Hyper-V hosts.

            I think I heard Vembu does this. I don't use anything like this though but may be worth a look.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @jmoore
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              @jmoore said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

              @brandon220 said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

              @JaredBusch Couldn't have said this better myself. I received the email from Veeam about the increase too, but all my current licenses are good through Dec 2020.
              If there was a good backup solution for KVM, I would have zero Hyper-V hosts.

              I think I heard Vembu does this. I don't use anything like this though but may be worth a look.

              https://www.vembu.com/backup-solution-for-kvm-hypervisor/

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller Well ok, that looks promising for those who need that.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @jmoore
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                  @jmoore said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                  @scottalanmiller Well ok, that looks promising for those who need that.

                  Yeah but is it free or a 30 day trial?

                  There are two links to the same location, one which makes it look like it's free the other which clearly is not.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                    @jmoore said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                    @scottalanmiller Well ok, that looks promising for those who need that.

                    Try finding a download, though. Doens't look all that promising once you look into it.

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Yeah its a starting point. Don't know if it will work how he wants it or not. I just remembered reading on a blog somewhere that it was being used.

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                      • Emad RE
                        Emad R @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee

                        You should consider new comer LXD to the mix, especially if your just running Linux VMs.

                        Like everyone used it say nothing wrong in it, and fully featured and impressive it just not battle-tested as much as KVM, but still its very futuristic. I would go with KVM standalone and use RHEL or RHEL variant for it.

                        Check this also :
                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/20917/spin-vms-quickly-with-kvm-virt-sysprep/

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                        • K
                          krisleslie @jmoore
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                          @jmoore I want to know which book I need to check it out

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                          • jmooreJ
                            jmoore @krisleslie
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                            @krisleslie said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                            @jmoore I want to know which book I need to check it out

                            This one here.
                            https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/178829467X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
                            I had trouble with a few of the exercises but not many. I'm sure there are more current things now too but this was a starting point for me and I plan to do more someday. It did give me a really good idea of how things work in the background. I'm a book person too, I went over every example.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @jmoore
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                              @jmoore said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                              @krisleslie said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                              @jmoore I want to know which book I need to check it out

                              This one here.
                              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/178829467X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
                              I had trouble with a few of the exercises but not many. I'm sure there are more current things now too but this was a starting point for me and I plan to do more someday. It did give me a really good idea of how things work in the background. I'm a book person too, I went over every example.

                              https://www.packtpub.com/virtualization-and-cloud/kvm-virtualization-cookbook
                              $44.99 comes with print and ebook.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
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                                One downside to KVM (in virt-manager) is lack of snapshots for UEFI VMs.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                                  @FATeknollogee said in Hypervisors: revisit your choices!:

                                  One downside to KVM (in virt-manager) is lack of snapshots for UEFI VMs.

                                  yes it is.

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