Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7
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Microsoft just sent out a reminder for people still running Windows 7 that use Office 365...
As announced previously, Windows 7 will be out of support after January 14, 2020. Because Office 365 is governed by the Modern Lifecycle Policy, customers are required to stay current as per the servicing and system requirements for the product or service. This includes using Office 365 ProPlus on a Windows operating system that is currently in support.
It's probably a bit of a soft requirement, but at a minimum, Office 365 users on Windows 7 are about to start getting a degraded experience, and possibly are skirting their installation requirements for their licensing.
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Yeah, I would consider it a soft requirement as well. They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it. That could be accomplished by a reg key or something, etc...
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.
Do they? Based on what?
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Just because an organization has the right to stay using Windows 7, even with extended support, doesn't mean that there is any requirement or implication that other products will be licensed to work on it. Office 365 is free to impose any requirement that it wants for the products that it licenses.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.
Do they? Based on what?
They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?
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Potential pop up reminder every time a user use a office 365 application?
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.
Do they? Based on what?
They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?
Because of the statement. If the license mirrors the statement that appears to be from the license, then valid support has nothing to do with it. Staying current, and being able to buy extended support, are two different things. According to what the statement says, you are required to stay current, and that means Windows 10 (and updated at that.) Now, we are presuming that MS got the statement wrong. But betting against MS' official announcement seems a bit reckless.
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@black3dynamite said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
Potential pop up reminder every time a user use a office 365 application?
Very possible.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.
Do they? Based on what?
They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?
Because of the statement. If the license mirrors the statement that appears to be from the license, then valid support has nothing to do with it. Staying current, and being able to buy extended support, are two different things. According to what the statement says, you are required to stay current, and that means Windows 10 (and updated at that.) Now, we are presuming that MS got the statement wrong. But betting against MS' official announcement seems a bit reckless.
If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.
Does it mean you must be on the most recent version of Windows - well, hell, that would mean you could only use O365 on 1903, soon to be 19H2, no older version would/should work.
Does it mean an MS supported OS - then Win 7 and 8.1 are still covered.Sticking to the - stay current - in strict terms would cause MS HUGE headache, and likely lawsuits because all the new version of Windows 10 makes that challenging.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.
In the Windows world, current has a specific meaning that really doesn't change. Current means one of the OSes that is "currently available". Windows 7 is for several more weeks. Windows 8 is not. Windows 8.1 is, but not for much longer.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
Does it mean you must be on the most recent version of Windows - well, hell, that would mean you could only use O365 on 1903, soon to be 19H2, no older version would/should work.
Does it mean an MS supported OS - then Win 7 and 8.1 are still coveredIt means either the Windows 10 LTS release or the small set of current non-LTS versions.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
Sticking to the - stay current - in strict terms would cause MS HUGE headache, and likely lawsuits because all the new version of Windows 10 makes that challenging.
How could it possibly lead to a lawsuit? There's isn't the slightest grey area here, it's 100% clear and 100% within their rights and completely logical for them to require that product A requires a product from list B. Tons of software companies do that, it's completely legal.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.
In the Windows world, current has a specific meaning that really doesn't change. Current means one of the OSes that is "currently available". Windows 7 is for several more weeks. Windows 8 is not. Windows 8.1 is, but not for much longer.
uh - what? What does currently available mean?
Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.
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I can assure everyone that the user experience with O365 and Windows 7 is less than stellar. We still have a number of devs here on 7 (we have a migration plan in plce, hopefully by year end), but I've been dealing with all sorts of minute but annoying issues on those machines.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
uh - what? What does currently available mean?
It means "current available from the vendor". It's plain English.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.
So "not available or current". Still... plain and simple.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:
Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.
And just in case you are trying to be ridiculous and claim that this means "current", MS spelled it out in the original statement so that you can't possibly be confused. This isn't ambiguous, hard, or non-obvious. Nor is it illegal or unethical. In fact, it's really, really good.
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I won't have any Win 7 systems by that time. At least that is the goal. I was thinking it was Jan 20, 2020. Guess I just confabulated that based on the year being 2020. Still have about 40 systems to issue to replace them.
