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    Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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      @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

      pfSense + TNSR sounds interesting, just not sure if it's worth the "hassle" procuring my own hardware (which really isn't a big deal) vs ER4.

      Exactly, this is where I think we all are... there is a really, REALLY simple and supported solution that nearly everyone uses and works SO well.

      And then there is "playing around with all kinds of projects just to be weird' which is what the other feels like. If you don't have some documented need for that, I wouldn't even consider it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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        @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

        It's probably not a bad idea to at least speak w the pfSense folks.

        It's always a bad idea to ask a vendor a question like this. Always.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

          It's always a bad idea to ask a vendor a question like this. Always.

          If I chose to go this route, I def wouldn't use their appliance.
          My question for them would be: what hardware & encryption levels are needed to achieve 500+ Mbps?
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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            @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

            My question for them would be: what hardware & encryption levels are needed to achieve 500+ Mbps?

            I doubt that pfSense provides that kind of consulting if you aren't buying their stuff.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I'd use VyOS before pfSense for this.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                VyOS

                Ok, will check it out!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                  VyOS

                  Ok, will check it out!

                  Linux based router OS. Built from the same original code that EdgeOS comes from.

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                    @FATeknollogee
                    I did a test. I get 840 Mbps IPsec between two servers running xcp-ng and one pfSense in each. 4 vCPU 2.5GHz Xeon E5.
                    This was over 1GbE and with NAT, packet filtering, I/O overhead of Xen etc.

                    I expected more but was too lazy to try on bare metal. But I would assume it's faster, also a newer CPU with higher clock frequencies would likely give it another boost.

                    If you want a lot more speed you can add an accelerator card. Intel has their Quick Assist Technology and a card that can do up to 50 Gbps is priced around $650.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @1337
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                      @Pete-S pfSense? What did you test with?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                        @Pete-S pfSense? What did you test with?

                        I would guess from his wording - two xcp-ng hosts, each with a PFSense VM, directly connected to each other, this would take the ISP out of the equation and show max throughput for his given setup (4 vCPU, no RAM listed).

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                          @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                          @Pete-S pfSense? What did you test with?

                          iperf is the standard tool for this.

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                            1337 @Dashrender
                            last edited by 1337

                            @Dashrender said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                            @Pete-S pfSense? What did you test with?

                            I would guess from his wording - two xcp-ng hosts, each with a PFSense VM, directly connected to each other, this would take the ISP out of the equation and show max throughput for his given setup (4 vCPU, no RAM listed).

                            Yes. And it was 2GB RAM.

                            @JaredBusch said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                            @Pete-S pfSense? What did you test with?

                            iperf is the standard tool for this.

                            Correct. iperf (v3.6) with a couple of parallel streams.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @1337
                              last edited by

                              @Pete-S said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                              @FATeknollogee
                              I did a test. I get 840 Mbps IPsec between two servers running xcp-ng and one pfSense in each. 4 vCPU 2.5GHz Xeon E5.
                              This was over 1GbE and with NAT, packet filtering, I/O overhead of Xen etc.

                              I expected more but was too lazy to try on bare metal. But I would assume it's faster, also a newer CPU with higher clock frequencies would likely give it another boost.

                              If you want a lot more speed you can add an accelerator card. Intel has their Quick Assist Technology and a card that can do up to 50 Gbps is priced around $650.

                              How much RAM?
                              Did you check CPU usage?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                @FATeknollogee said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                                @Pete-S said in Co-lo + 5 (or more) sites....connect 'em all:

                                @FATeknollogee
                                I did a test. I get 840 Mbps IPsec between two servers running xcp-ng and one pfSense in each. 4 vCPU 2.5GHz Xeon E5.
                                This was over 1GbE and with NAT, packet filtering, I/O overhead of Xen etc.

                                I expected more but was too lazy to try on bare metal. But I would assume it's faster, also a newer CPU with higher clock frequencies would likely give it another boost.

                                If you want a lot more speed you can add an accelerator card. Intel has their Quick Assist Technology and a card that can do up to 50 Gbps is priced around $650.

                                How much RAM?
                                Did you check CPU usage?

                                I think that he said 2GB.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by FATeknollogee

                                  Update: this is what I ended up with.
                                  Route based VPN using this guide as a template.

                                  Master site: 1x ER 12 + 1x ER 4
                                  Sites A, B, C & D :1x ER4 each location
                                  Colo: 1x ER4 & 1x pfSense (SM x10SDV-TLN4F+)

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