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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      The main user who was having this issue is now reporting that the problem seems to be resolved.

      While I'm sure it's overkill, I need to find the actual registry entry that's changed when the setting is modified, not just the setting that makes the the option appear in the control panel applet. Then deploy it via GPO - just squash this bug!

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      • jmooreJ
        jmoore @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @dashrender Yeah good idea. I've experimented with setting these people to the High Performance power setting. So far no one has complained but its not enough time yet to know anything definitive yet.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          The issue only appears after the computer goes into sleep mode. If your high performance option basically killed sleep mode, then it's no wonder they have no issues.

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            manxam @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
            Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
            I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

            This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

            Ugh..

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @manxam
              last edited by

              @manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
              Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
              I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

              This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

              Ugh..

              Yeah the hidden setting is just dumb!!

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @manxam
                last edited by

                @manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
                Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
                I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

                This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

                Ugh..

                Hey
                @manxam enabling this via GPO only makes the setting visible. Did your users then have to manually set it?

                I'm trying to find a way to set the actual setting to a value using GPO - did you find one?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by Dashrender

                  I think I've figured it out.

                  The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
                  The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

                  The three different sections are for

                   [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
                   "Attributes"=dword:00000002
                  
                  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
                  "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  
                  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
                  "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  
                  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
                  "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                  
                  
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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Sigh - these registry settings don't fix the issue.

                    And I'm starting to get more users complaining about this issue.

                    So far I only seem to be able to fix it manually via the GUI.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      I figure I owe an update here.

                      These reg entries are in hex... 00000078 = 120 (seconds) in decimal. i.e. 2 mins.. sigh I completely over looked this. No wonder the times weren't changing.

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        I think I've figured it out.

                        The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
                        The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

                        The three different sections are for

                         [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
                         "Attributes"=dword:00000002
                        
                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
                        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        
                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
                        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        
                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
                        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
                        
                        

                        So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

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                        • kamidonK
                          kamidon
                          last edited by kamidon

                          I had this issue with my HP Omen, but it went away after going back to Windows from Fedora...when I failed miserably to play games on Linux....lol

                          My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @kamidon
                            last edited by

                            @kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

                            Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.

                            @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

                            That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.

                            But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                              Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                  Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco @wrx7m
                                    last edited by

                                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                    Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                    Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

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                                    • WrCombsW
                                      WrCombs @RojoLoco
                                      last edited by

                                      @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                      Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                      powercfg-hibernate off
                                      

                                      is what you're thinking ?

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @RojoLoco
                                        last edited by wrx7m

                                        @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                        I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                          I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                          You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                            I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                            You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                            Ahhh. I see.

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