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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

      I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

      AMD Phenom was my favorite.

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      • creaytC
        creayt
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        Damn dude you just missed a deal that was exactly what you're looking for. Bummer.

        https://www.edealinfo.com/d/00193386277347/Lenovo-Legion-Y545-15-6-inch-FHD-Laptop-with-Intel-Hex-Core

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          1337 @PhlipElder
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          @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

          @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

          but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

          That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

          I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

          Toshiba Tecra Z50 is exactly what I have as well. :thumbs_up:

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          • kamidonK
            kamidon @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

            That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

            I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

            We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

            Hah, that's so true

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            • kamidonK
              kamidon @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

              I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

              AMD Phenom was my favorite.

              Oh but that Sempron though! 😛

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

                Perhaps those updates to my 2012'sh laptop would make it usable - but it also weighs over 5 lbs, probably over 6, so I have desire to carry it around.

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                • PhlipElderP
                  PhlipElder @kamidon
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                  @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  @black3dynamite said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

                  AMD Phenom was my favorite.

                  Oh but that Sempron though! 😛

                  2019-08-09 Twitter CPU.PNG

                  Let's see,

                  • Intel 486SX 😛
                  • IBM/CYRIX 6x86MX (these were real performers ... not)
                  • Intel Xeon Processor 2400DP
                  • Intel Pentium III
                  • Intel Pentium D
                  • Intel Celeron

                  The Pentium Pro was a significant size larger but I don't have one anymore. I'm not sure where it went. 😞

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                  • kamidonK
                    kamidon @PhlipElder
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                    @PhlipElder Where's the slot Proc?! Lol. Now those are biiiiiig.
                    Think they sat in ISA slots right? Or no maybe it was just a special slot for the processor...can't remember

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                    • PhlipElderP
                      PhlipElder @kamidon
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                      @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                      @PhlipElder Where's the slot Proc?! Lol. Now those are biiiiiig.
                      Think they sat in ISA slots right? Or no maybe it was just a special slot for the processor...can't remember

                      It was a custom slot that allowed for four or eight CPU configurations without needing too much real estate to make it happen. I was working for a former employer in those days, so unfortunately don't have any samples. 😞

                      With AMD's EPYC Rome single socket CPU setups absolutely crushing Intel's dual and even quad :astonished_face: processor rigs real estate won't be too much of an issue for the next few years.

                      The trend, in my mind, was back towards daughter cards for CPUs and memory slots given the density direction Intel was heading in.

                      AMD packing such a huge punch in one socket has put Intel on notice and Ice Lake is probably not going to be the answer they need especially if it does not have PCIe Gen 4.

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                      • kamidonK
                        kamidon @PhlipElder
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                        @PhlipElder Finally, we're going to see an epic rise in AMD's market share (more so than the already growing trend).
                        AMD will be ryzing up epically!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
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                          @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                          The Pentium Pro was a significant size larger but I don't have one anymore. I'm not sure where it went.

                          For a long time I kept one in the car as a beard brush (for real.) I've got one in a box here somewhere.

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                          • PhlipElderP
                            PhlipElder @kamidon
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                            @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                            @PhlipElder Finally, we're going to see an epic rise in AMD's market share (more so than the already growing trend).
                            AMD will be ryzing up epically!

                            Microsoft's ongoing AMD EPYC Rome Azure services announcements are not helping Intel at all. NVIDIA may take a bit of a hit here too as it looks like they will be utilizing AMD/ATI for graphics subsystems for their VM offerings too.

                            STH (Serve The Home) is a pretty good balanced resource. They've been gaga over AMD EPYC Rome.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                              @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                              @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                              but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                              That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                              I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                              We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

                              Perhaps those updates to my 2012'sh laptop would make it usable - but it also weighs over 5 lbs, probably over 6, so I have desire to carry it around.

                              Oh, mine is super light. Best laptop I ever bought. 13", great construction, it was for back packing Europe with my kids in 2012. In constant use ever since. It was my workhorse (because my desktop was so old) from 2012 - 2017 when it became my daughter's main computer.

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                              • PhlipElderP
                                PhlipElder @kamidon
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                                @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                @PhlipElder Finally, we're going to see an epic rise in AMD's market share (more so than the already growing trend).
                                AMD will be ryzing up epically!

                                I'm just waiting for an integrated AMD EPYC Rome single socket barebones that utilizes ESDFF .L with 32 bays to allow for 1PB in 1U or 2PB in 2U. We're not a SuperMicro fan here, so we shall see which vendor drops in first. 🙂

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                                • kamidonK
                                  kamidon @PhlipElder
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                                  @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                  @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                  @PhlipElder Finally, we're going to see an epic rise in AMD's market share (more so than the already growing trend).
                                  AMD will be ryzing up epically!

                                  I'm just waiting for an integrated AMD EPYC Rome single socket barebones that utilizes ESDFF .L with 32 bays to allow for 1PB in 1U or 2PB in 2U. We're not a SuperMicro fan here, so we shall see which vendor drops in first. 🙂

                                  Sounds dreamy 🙂

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                                  • PhlipElderP
                                    PhlipElder @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                                    That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                                    I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                                    We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

                                    Perhaps those updates to my 2012'sh laptop would make it usable - but it also weighs over 5 lbs, probably over 6, so I have desire to carry it around.

                                    Oh, mine is super light. Best laptop I ever bought. 13", great construction, it was for back packing Europe with my kids in 2012. In constant use ever since. It was my workhorse (because my desktop was so old) from 2012 - 2017 when it became my daughter's main computer.

                                    The Tecra Z50-A series has an all magnesium shell, is ultra-slim, and with the 1080p screen is an excellent platform. I've not seen anything reasonable to replace it. When I swapped out the previous Tecra and the external monitor I had with it my laptop back bag dropped about 1,800 grams (4lbs). Wow, what a difference!

                                    Our current client go-to is the Dell Precision 7530 with it's ultra-high resolution screen, a pair of NVMe RAID 1, 16GB or 32GB of RAM, and the screen is just too high a resolution for these old eyes without me having to wear a Bubbles (TPB) pair of glasses. :S

                                    I wouldn't mind a rig with 32GB or 64GB of RAM so that I could run my VM demos locally but it's not worth the cost at this point as the Z50 just does the job.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
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                                      @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      @PhlipElder Finally, we're going to see an epic rise in AMD's market share (more so than the already growing trend).
                                      AMD will be ryzing up epically!

                                      I'm just waiting for an integrated AMD EPYC Rome single socket barebones that utilizes ESDFF .L with 32 bays to allow for 1PB in 1U or 2PB in 2U. We're not a SuperMicro fan here, so we shall see which vendor drops in first. 🙂

                                      Huawei maybe.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @PhlipElder
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                                        @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                        Tecra

                                        Has Toshiba turned a corner? Granted I haven't used them since the early 2000's, but I hated them back then..

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                                        • kamidonK
                                          kamidon @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender Toshiba still making machines?

                                          Edit: I meant Computers...I love their copiers!

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                                          • PhlipElderP
                                            PhlipElder @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                            @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                            Tecra

                                            Has Toshiba turned a corner? Granted I haven't used them since the early 2000's, but I hated them back then..

                                            They'z in big troubles. No new machines for a long time now. They were in the news on and off because of the mess as I recall.

                                            The Z50-C had a plastic bottom to cut costs though still the magnesium top. It was still one CPU generation behind the Dell units when it was released. 😞

                                            We had a lot of Z50-C CPU fans go wonky with buzzing noises too. We've replaced a lot of them. Fortunately, we can call Toshiba, we're a long standing partner, and get them as field replaceable units. Otherwise it's take it in. That's a PITA.

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