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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @kamidon
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      @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

      Hmmm, never heard of Power.

      Power is the only remaining processor made by or available for IBM customers. IBM sold everything that used Intel or AMD to Lenovo so that they could focus 100% on their Power products. Power is what powers mainfraimes, the majority of mini-computers, anything AIX, and many others.

      Power also does other things and is very common in RAID controllers and other small items. But not made by IBM in those cases.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @kamidon
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        @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

        @scottalanmiller OH DUH....IBM right???

        Yup. IBM makes the majority of Power processors and all of the high performance ones. Power is open source, so others can make it. Motorola made a low end Power proc family called PowerPC that Apple used to buy. Lots of chip makes use Power designs to make small 64bit chips these days. You find them in all kinds of appliances. But they are not nearly as popular as ARM for that.

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        • kamidonK
          kamidon @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

          @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

          Hmmm, never heard of Power.

          Power is the only remaining processor made by or available for IBM customers. IBM sold everything that used Intel or AMD to Lenovo so that they could focus 100% on their Power products. Power is what powers mainfraimes, the majority of mini-computers, anything AIX, and many others.

          Power also does other things and is very common in RAID controllers and other small items. But not made by IBM in those cases.

          Off-topic, but I remember reading an article a few years back that IBM switched all their employees over to Apple machines. Lol...random.

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          • kamidonK
            kamidon @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

            @scottalanmiller OH DUH....IBM right???

            Yup. IBM makes the majority of Power processors and all of the high performance ones. Power is open source, so others can make it. Motorola made a low end Power proc family called PowerPC that Apple used to buy. Lots of chip makes use Power designs to make small 64bit chips these days. You find them in all kinds of appliances. But they are not nearly as popular as ARM for that.

            Would Snapdragon count as ARM?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by scottalanmiller

              The main processor families for general computing around still today include: Power, Sparc, MIPS, AMD64, ARM, RISC-V.

              Recently killed off families included Alpha, PA-RISC, Itanium, IA32.

              AMD and Intel both primarily make AMD64 chips. Intel has no chip design of its own today.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @kamidon
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                @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                Hmmm, never heard of Power.

                Power is the only remaining processor made by or available for IBM customers. IBM sold everything that used Intel or AMD to Lenovo so that they could focus 100% on their Power products. Power is what powers mainfraimes, the majority of mini-computers, anything AIX, and many others.

                Power also does other things and is very common in RAID controllers and other small items. But not made by IBM in those cases.

                Off-topic, but I remember reading an article a few years back that IBM switched all their employees over to Apple machines. Lol...random.

                Because they don't want to use Windows. IBM and Microsoft do not like each other.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @kamidon
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                  @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                  @scottalanmiller OH DUH....IBM right???

                  Yup. IBM makes the majority of Power processors and all of the high performance ones. Power is open source, so others can make it. Motorola made a low end Power proc family called PowerPC that Apple used to buy. Lots of chip makes use Power designs to make small 64bit chips these days. You find them in all kinds of appliances. But they are not nearly as popular as ARM for that.

                  Would Snapdragon count as ARM?

                  Snapdragon is the highest performance ARM for end user devices made currently, yes.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    There are way faster ARM procs made, but they aren't designed for end user devices. They are made for servers.

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                    • kamidonK
                      kamidon @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                      The main processor families for general computing around still today include: Power, Sparc, MIPS, AMD64, ARM, RISC-V.

                      Recently killed off families included Alpha, PA-RISC, Itanium, IA32.

                      AMD and Intel both primarily make AMD64 chips. Intel has no chip design of its own today.

                      What about Xeon? And speaking of which, fuck those damn things are expensive.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @kamidon
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                        @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                        What about Xeon? And speaking of which, fuck those damn things are expensive.

                        Xeon is one specific model of Intel's AMD64 lineup. It's not actually a model on its own. It's a "server" designation of other lines. You could by a Pentium III Xeon, then a Pentium IV Xeon, a Core Xeon, etc.

                        Just like how i3 means low end processor, and i5 means middle of the road, Xeon means "server".

                        Xeon as a designation going back to the Pentium II era and was the direct successor to the Pentium Pro, which most people know as the Pentium III architecture. So the original Xeons were 32bit, so IA32 architecture.

                        All modern Xeons since around 2006 are 64bit, so AMD64.

                        Intel has only ever made two 64bit families. IA64 (aka Itanium) and AMD64 (i3, i5, Xeon, etc.) Everything that isn't Itanium is AMD64 from them.

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                        • PhlipElderP
                          PhlipElder @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                          @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                          but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                          That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                          I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
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                            @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                            @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                            but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                            That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                            I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                            We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

                                AMD Phenom was my favorite.

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                                • creaytC
                                  creayt
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                                  Damn dude you just missed a deal that was exactly what you're looking for. Bummer.

                                  https://www.edealinfo.com/d/00193386277347/Lenovo-Legion-Y545-15-6-inch-FHD-Laptop-with-Intel-Hex-Core

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                                    1337 @PhlipElder
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                                    @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                    but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                                    That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                                    I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                                    Toshiba Tecra Z50 is exactly what I have as well. :thumbs_up:

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                                    • kamidonK
                                      kamidon @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                      but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                                      That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                                      I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                                      We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

                                      Hah, that's so true

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                                      • kamidonK
                                        kamidon @black3dynamite
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                                        @black3dynamite said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                        I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

                                        AMD Phenom was my favorite.

                                        Oh but that Sempron though! 😛

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                          @PhlipElder said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                          @Dashrender said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                          but it was just over 5 years old and died last year.

                                          That's pretty young for a laptop. My $1100 HP Folio 13 is still going strong from 2012.

                                          I have a Tecra Z50-A series that's still going strong. A high performance Intel SSD and the maximum amount of RAM gives it a good go along with an Asus HD USB3 monitor makes it a solid work kit. 🙂

                                          We've hit that era where as long as you have enough RAM and an SSD, the CPU is often not a factor 🙂

                                          Perhaps those updates to my 2012'sh laptop would make it usable - but it also weighs over 5 lbs, probably over 6, so I have desire to carry it around.

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                                          • PhlipElderP
                                            PhlipElder @kamidon
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                                            @kamidon said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Spec'ing a new computer from Dell or?:

                                            I had a HP DC5850 that replaced my dx5150 which I had used for years. The DC5850 made it nine years, I think, as my main desktop. That had the AMD Phenom-II processor, 6GB of RAM, but the key was that it had an early SSD and was so fast that the old CPU didn't matter. Now 6GB of RAM would kill me, but 8GB will essentially work.

                                            AMD Phenom was my favorite.

                                            Oh but that Sempron though! 😛

                                            2019-08-09 Twitter CPU.PNG

                                            Let's see,

                                            • Intel 486SX 😛
                                            • IBM/CYRIX 6x86MX (these were real performers ... not)
                                            • Intel Xeon Processor 2400DP
                                            • Intel Pentium III
                                            • Intel Pentium D
                                            • Intel Celeron

                                            The Pentium Pro was a significant size larger but I don't have one anymore. I'm not sure where it went. 😞

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