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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      The same people who say to eat often, also say things like "only eat when you are hungry." So you can prove that it is BS, because the first statement is to eat when not hungry, and the second is to eat when hungry. Can't be both.

      OH - I'm eating when not hungry most of the time.

      Yeah, seems like a bad idea, right? LOL If you want to lose weight, and your body says "I don't need all of this food you keep making me eat", that seems off.

      on one hand that makes sense - but on the other - it's about keeping the metabolism in high gear all day long.

      I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

        it's about keeping the metabolism in high gear all day long.

        Except... that is also a 'person by person' thing. They also say you go into starvation mode after X hours of not eating, but it's easy to demonstrate that not being true, either.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

          I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.

          No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

            @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

            I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.

            No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.

            I mean it does work 'for me' as you said... Im' just a single example.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

              @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

              @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

              I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.

              No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.

              I mean it does work 'for me' as you said... Im' just a single example.

              And I'm proof that the opposite works for me. The difference is, we understand that different people have different needs, and most doctors just randomly choose something that "worked once" and apply it to everyone without learning if that is something intrinsic to humans, or something specific to a group of people.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many

                Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.

                It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.

                https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html

                If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.

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                • J
                  JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                  I've found that eating earlier in the day, and trying to eat when it is convenient for others rather than when it is good for me, are the top factors that derail my weight loss and make it hard for me to eat healthily. If I eat before I'm really hungry, I get hungry all day thinking about food. If I skip the early meals, I never get hungry in the first place (almost never), until late in the day.

                  I can relate. I'm down 150 pounds in the last 3 years, taking meals in a "social" setting is a killer for me. I also skip breakfast and lunch, taking breakfast only once every couple of months, and lunch only once or twice a month. I find that I don't even think about food until about 3:30pm and at that time, I'm only two hours from dinner at home.

                  I find sit down dinners with my wife and kids and making sure we spend enough time at the table to talk about each other's events from the day allows me to eat slower, and therefore, LESS!

                  The only thing I count is CARBS (it's the only thing that has worked over the years of yo-yo weight loss attempts). My target each day is zero carbs. I come in at about 40 per day. Haven't had bread or potatoes in years.... 🙂

                  I so much enjoy watching all of your progress! Kudos to all of you!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                    @JasGot said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                    I can relate. I'm down 150 pounds in the last 3 years, taking meals in a "social" setting is a killer for me. I also skip breakfast and lunch, taking breakfast only once every couple of months, and lunch only once or twice a month. I find that I don't even think about food until about 3:30pm and at that time, I'm only two hours from dinner at home.

                    That's me, but I don't think about food till more like 6PM!!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                      @JasGot said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                      I so much enjoy watching all of your progress! Kudos to all of you!

                      I once lost 99lbs doing a low carb diet with @Texkonc and it was good for almost two years but travel triggered me to lose it and gain the weight back. This time I'm trying something more sustainable. And I don't worry about the carbs.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                        @Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many

                        Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.

                        It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.

                        https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html

                        If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.

                        Yes, testing the averages is a good starting point. Doctors don't test, though, they always try to "adjust you back" if you try to tweak to what works for you.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many

                          Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.

                          It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.

                          https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html

                          If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.

                          Yes, testing the averages is a good starting point. Doctors don't test, though, they always try to "adjust you back" if you try to tweak to what works for you.

                          This is generally true, because the US health system isn't about keeping you healthy.. it's about fixing you only after you're broken.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Down 31lbs now.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Down 13.2 kg (29.04 lbs) since April 17, 2019 (3.5 months).

                              I did hit my 2 weeks under 100kg checkpoint in July and have not been in danger of going back.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                I'm stuck, 173 lbs. Can't seem to make any headway.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                  I'm stuck, 173 lbs. Can't seem to make any headway.

                                  Have you recalculated everything using your current stats? This way you can adjust accordingly?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                                    @Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                    @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                    I'm stuck, 173 lbs. Can't seem to make any headway.

                                    Have you recalculated everything using your current stats? This way you can adjust accordingly?

                                    I'm currently using a nutritionist.. I'm following his lead at this time. We'll be discussing lowering my carbs this week.

                                    Here are my current macros:
                                    BFast - 35P 60C 20F
                                    snack - 28F 45C 10F
                                    Lunch - 35P 60C 15F
                                    snack - 28P 45C 10F
                                    Dinner - 35P 60C 15F
                                    snack - 35P 30C 5F

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                                    • s.hacklemanS
                                      s.hackleman
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                                      Checking in as well. I haven't lost a single pound. That being said I have been doing CrossFit for over a year and I have added 40lbs to almost every lift, I can comfortably run a mile unbroken, and I feel great. Take your wins where they come. Now I'm on to conquering pull ups and jump rope double unders.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @s.hackleman
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                                        @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                        Checking in as well. I haven't lost a single pound. That being said I have been doing CrossFit for over a year and I have added 40lbs to almost every lift, I can comfortably run a mile unbroken, and I feel great. Take your wins where they come. Now I'm on to conquering pull ups and jump rope double unders.

                                        This is why I titled the thread fitness and weightloss. Not just weightloss.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @s.hackleman
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                                          @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                          Checking in as well. I haven't lost a single pound. That being said I have been doing CrossFit for over a year and I have added 40lbs to almost every lift, I can comfortably run a mile unbroken, and I feel great. Take your wins where they come. Now I'm on to conquering pull ups and jump rope double unders.

                                          I'm way up on push-ups since I started. Starting was 18 in a minute. Now it's around 44 in a min.
                                          Mile time started at 8:35, currently 6:34.

                                          Need to add pullups, and others to the routine.

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                                          • J
                                            JasGot
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                                            Alright. You've all inspired me to quit the "hold steady" phase and make another move downward......:)

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