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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
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      LOL - It has begun.

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        marcinozga @wrx7m
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        @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

        LOL - It has begun.

        d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

        Isolate it, give him admin, and let them crash and burn. Just make sure to CYA.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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          @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

          LOL - It has begun.

          d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

          Hi <Random Person> this is beyond my capabilities, you have to talk to the super admin to see if they'll allow this.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @marcinozga
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            @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

            @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

            LOL - It has begun.

            d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

            Isolate it, give him admin, and let them crash and burn. Just make sure to CYA.

            What fun is that. . . we have elevated users here and they just constantly install plugins as shortcuts to doing their job and then ask us to fix it.

            It doesn't fix the problem and just causes more problems for us down the road.

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              marcinozga @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

              @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

              @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

              LOL - It has begun.

              d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

              Isolate it, give him admin, and let them crash and burn. Just make sure to CYA.

              What fun is that. . . we have elevated users here and they just constantly install plugins as shortcuts to doing their job and then ask us to fix it.

              It doesn't fix the problem and just causes more problems for us down the road.

              You ask whoever is admin to fix it then. They asked to be admin, they must be Wordpress experts, no?

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                DustinB3403 @marcinozga
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                @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                They asked to be admin, they must be Wordpress experts, no?

                hahahahahahahahaha

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                  marcinozga @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 I used that approach with some users in the past, nobody asks me for admin privileges to any systems anymore.

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @marcinozga
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                    @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                    @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                    @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                    @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                    LOL - It has begun.

                    d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

                    Isolate it, give him admin, and let them crash and burn. Just make sure to CYA.

                    What fun is that. . . we have elevated users here and they just constantly install plugins as shortcuts to doing their job and then ask us to fix it.

                    It doesn't fix the problem and just causes more problems for us down the road.

                    You ask whoever is admin to fix it then. They asked to be admin, they must be Wordpress experts, no?

                    I highly doubt anyone here is a wordpress expert. I was told by one of the marketing ladies that she used to own a web design firm for 20 years. She also said that she didn't want to use wordpress for something else because it was open source so there was no accountability and there were too many hands in the cookie jar. So, I wrote her off on knowing anything of real value when it comes to this stuff.

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                      marcinozga @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                      @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                      @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                      @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                      @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                      LOL - It has begun.

                      d440c57d-83b2-4dad-97c9-988b449af907-image.png

                      Isolate it, give him admin, and let them crash and burn. Just make sure to CYA.

                      What fun is that. . . we have elevated users here and they just constantly install plugins as shortcuts to doing their job and then ask us to fix it.

                      It doesn't fix the problem and just causes more problems for us down the road.

                      You ask whoever is admin to fix it then. They asked to be admin, they must be Wordpress experts, no?

                      I highly doubt anyone here is a wordpress expert. I was told by one of the marketing ladies that she used to own a web design firm for 20 years. She also said that she didn't want to use wordpress for something else because it was open source so there was no accountability and there were too many hands in the cookie jar. So, I wrote her off on knowing anything of real value when it comes to this stuff.

                      I know they are not experts, that's the line you use to teach them a lesson when they screw up.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @marcinozga
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                        @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                        @DustinB3403 I used that approach with some users in the past, nobody asks me for admin privileges to any systems anymore.

                        That's what we try here but with the "if you have admin access, we aren't touching it any more".

                        It takes it from an IT system to a different class with where we work.

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                          wrx7m
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                            marcinozga @wrx7m
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                            @wrx7m marketing people......

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @marcinozga
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                              @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                              I know they are not experts, that's the line you use to teach them a lesson when they screw up.

                              @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                              That's what we try here but with the "if you have admin access, we aren't touching it any more".
                              It takes it from an IT system to a different class with where we work.

                              I am the only IT guy here. I don't have time to teach people lessons after they screw up something that should have been restricted in the first place.

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ
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                                Oh great! let's just change themes on the fly

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                                  marcinozga @wrx7m
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                                  @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                  @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                  I know they are not experts, that's the line you use to teach them a lesson when they screw up.

                                  @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                  That's what we try here but with the "if you have admin access, we aren't touching it any more".
                                  It takes it from an IT system to a different class with where we work.

                                  I am the only IT guy here. I don't have time to teach people lessons after they screw up something that should have been restricted in the first place.

                                  Do you have time to keep explaining why admin access is a bad idea?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                    @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                    Her:
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                                    You should say: Yes there are major concerns of security and accountability with giving multiple people admin access. While the Editor role can not change the theme, add users or install plugins these restrictions are the same for the workstation you have. You can't install software, change the theme, add fonts etc. but are able to operate from your day to day.

                                    If you require administrative access for this wordpress site, the IT department will not be able to assist you with it from the moment you have administrative rights as we will essentially be co-administrators with you which could cause severe conflicts between buggy addons, themes etc.

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @marcinozga
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                                      @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                      @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                      @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                      I know they are not experts, that's the line you use to teach them a lesson when they screw up.

                                      @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                      That's what we try here but with the "if you have admin access, we aren't touching it any more".
                                      It takes it from an IT system to a different class with where we work.

                                      I am the only IT guy here. I don't have time to teach people lessons after they screw up something that should have been restricted in the first place.

                                      Do you have time to keep explaining why admin access is a bad idea?

                                      No, but I can copy and paste a response 🙂 I can't clone myself yet.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m
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                                        Going back to the original question- If management wants them to be able to edit themes, is a plugin for creating granular permissions good to use?

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                                          DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                          @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                          @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                          @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                          @marcinozga said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                          I know they are not experts, that's the line you use to teach them a lesson when they screw up.

                                          @DustinB3403 said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                          That's what we try here but with the "if you have admin access, we aren't touching it any more".
                                          It takes it from an IT system to a different class with where we work.

                                          I am the only IT guy here. I don't have time to teach people lessons after they screw up something that should have been restricted in the first place.

                                          Do you have time to keep explaining why admin access is a bad idea?

                                          No, but I can copy and paste a response 🙂 I can't clone myself yet.

                                          I would make the final explanation that, administrative access is for people who are going to be fully accountable for the site, including not just the content, theme, users or addons but also with ensuring the site is backed up and updated regularly.

                                          If an addon, theme or user needs to be invited they can contact the IT department to request these changes are made.

                                          If contacting IT is to cumbersome and they insist on Administrative access, save that communication as a CYA with a declaration that IT can't be asked to "Fix the wordpress" because there have been to many chefs in the kitchen.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                            @wrx7m said in WordPress - Plugins to Manage and Extend User Roles/Permissions:

                                            Going back to the original question- If management wants them to be able to edit themes, is a plugin for creating granular permissions good to use?

                                            Usually no, because those plugins are simply circumventing the installation and moving things into weird locations. And often break between versions.

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