Is the End Near for Windows Phone?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
I won't disagree with that. If you buy the knock-offs, you're going to get a crappy phone. But that's not really different from other products on the market.
They aren't knock offs. Android is the platform and all Androids are equally Androids.
It's true they all run Android, but if you put a cheap $300 Gateway machine against a $1500 HP machine and said "well they both run Windows", how is that any different? A product is good if it is strong in all ways. If you have a solid OS/firmware, but crappy hardware, then yeah, it's gonna suck. That's why people who want a good Android phone don't buy the "generic" Android phones. You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.
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@thanksaj said:
It's true they all run Android, but if you put a cheap $300 Gateway machine against a $1500 HP machine and said "well they both run Windows", how is that any different? A product is good if it is strong in all ways. If you have a solid OS/firmware, but crappy hardware, then yeah, it's gonna suck. That's why people who want a good Android phone don't buy the "generic" Android phones. You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.
Gateway is not a knock off of HP though. Both are fully PCs. HP is just as much a knock off of Gateway in that logic. Knock off means something specific that doesn't apply to generic devices like PCs or Android phones.
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@thanksaj said:
You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.
Ah, no thanks. I've seen issues with those three
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@nadnerB said:
@thanksaj said:
You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.
Ah, no thanks. I've seen issues with those three
Here too, none of them were reliable for us.
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I have seen the newer Samsung's be a bit more stable. However it depends on how the person is using it.
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They are improving, I'm sure. As Android matures and the manufacturing volume increases they must be getting better.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 that I picked up the Summer of 2013. About 8 months ago it really started having issues, so I had to back up everything, (moving Google Authenticator is a HUGE pain) and wipe it. It was good again for around 4 months and I've been just dealing with it since then.
I probably have around 30 non standard apps installed, mostly airline apps, a few store apps (like Starbucks) and it just in general seems to suck. I'm working if I overheated it by running it hard one day and now it is bad in some way..
Not to mention that under normal use I get around 8 hours of battery life right now, and if I'm traveling, I get way less - constantly find myself looking for a wall outlet.
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It's a shame that the store sucked and poisoned the well so to speak.
There is great potential here for MS to make an amazing product that integrates with exchange and does SO MANY NEAT THINGS. I want them to not screw this up but I think that ship has sailed.
My hope now is that as the Windows core improves and we see smaller x86 CPU's that eventually it'll just be a port of the core OS running on Intel chippery. Wintel all over again. -
I'm clinging to my Lumia ICON. I've had iPhone and Android and by far, Windows Phone has been the best experience for me. Didn't like the static ICONS of the iPhone and every Android I've owned would always end up crashing over time, like rebooting in the middle of doing something on the phone. And tired of the slow push for Android updates.
My ICON takes dazzling pictures and it is one of the reasons I am holding on to it.
Is the end near? Hard to say when it is doing well in other countries. And they are focused on the low end market right now though. If there was another flagship available right now, I'd take it and stay with Windows Phone. If I was forced to choose another, I'd go with iPhone.
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Is it doing well in other countries? I've not heard that before. Is the marketshare numbers only for the US market?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Is it doing well in other countries? I've not heard that before. Is the marketshare numbers only for the US market?
Yes, that Marketshare is US only...I follow Windows Central on Feedly and there are a lot of stories on how well it is doing overseas, especially low end.
I'm holding out hope it will survive as I do like the tiles and Cortana. Will see how it all comes together with Windows 10.
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Looks like the numbers are global, not US. Looks like it is dying very fast, lost a huge portion of its market in just three months.
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-ms-img/chart-ww-smartphone-os-market-share.png
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@scottalanmiller said:
Looks like the numbers are global, not US. Looks like it is dying very fast, lost a huge portion of its market in just three months.
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-ms-img/chart-ww-smartphone-os-market-share.png
Windows Central has some "splaning" to do...this could also be why we are seeing major pushes for Microsoft cross platform...
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@garak0410 said:
Windows Central has some "splaning" to do...this could also be why we are seeing major pushes for Microsoft cross platform...
Yes, their focus on iOS and Android is genuine. If they focused on the Windows Phone, no one would notice.
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I'll be the Charlton Heston of Windows Phone it would seem...can't stand the idea of another platform right now but I will graciously go to one when the time comes...
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My first "Windows Phone" arrived today. It was a black friday special on the Lumia 635. It's a low end phone, but it was only $40 and I wanted to try it.
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@Dashrender said:
My first "Windows Phone" arrived today. It was a black friday special on the Lumia 635. It's a low end phone, but it was only $40 and I wanted to try it.
Let us know what you think
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@Dashrender said:
My first "Windows Phone" arrived today. It was a black friday special on the Lumia 635. It's a low end phone, but it was only $40 and I wanted to try it.
For low end, it isn't bad...if you have any questions, let me know...
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@garak0410 said:
For low end, it isn't bad...if you have any questions, let me know...
Lots of reports of the app store being full of malware, wondering if you can confirm?
General thoughts on useability / UI ?
Pros / Cons?
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@MattSpeller I can confirm, I have a Windows phone right here. Try to find something like "Chrome" or other obvious app in there and you'll find hundreds of fake apps designed to trick you. Microsoft doesn't make a way to confirm the publisher or the app name and the search brings up random results.
