Linux users with iPhones / iPads
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
For those of us who use Linux as our main computers and also use iPhones / iPads, how to you handle your getting your non-streamed music library onto your iPhone / iPad?
I don't. I stream everything.
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@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
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@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
How do you expose that to the Internet for someone like me to access? Do you use some kind of dynamic DNS service to keep the A record for your home IP address up to date? Or does your Plex server send traffic to and through Plex's infrastructure, they're the intermediary between you and I?
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@EddieJennings Authentication goes through Plex, and I think you have to expose Plex port, but I'm not sure about that. You can access it through DNS record too, that's how mine is setup.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
How do you expose that to the Internet for someone like me to access? Do you use some kind of dynamic DNS service to keep the A record for your home IP address up to date? Or does your Plex server send traffic to and through Plex's infrastructure, they're the intermediary between you and I?
Plex servers act as a relay to setup the direct connection. Like most other services (ZeroTier, etc.)
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
I think you have to expose Plex port,
nope. Not unless you are also trying to do this:
@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
You can access it through DNS record too, that's how mine is setup.
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Yeah, I just checked, mine is exposed.
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@EddieJennings https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/
It has bandwidth limitations, 1 or 2Mbit, if you have bigger pipe where you host Plex, then exposing port gives you better experience.
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Yeah, I just checked, mine is exposed.
Because there is a relay host choice for connection setup, I would never do that. It adds a large attack vector for your network.
Before Plex had their relay method, I would also have used a direct connection method.
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If I go the route of Plex, I suppose I could just load what I want on the iPhone / iPad for offline listening, and not have to deal with streaming over the Internet.
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@EddieJennings Correct.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
If I go the route of Plex, I suppose I could just load what I want on the iPhone / iPad for offline listening, and not have to deal with streaming over the Internet.
You could just run the plex server on your daily driver and only fire it up when you want to change the offline content on your devices if you aren't planning on streaming the content.
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/
It has bandwidth limitations, 1 or 2Mbit, if you have bigger pipe where you host Plex, then exposing port gives you better experience.
By default, today, Plex apps will set up a direct connection.
I just started a movie on my cell phone, not on WiFi, and my router shows it is pushing 4mbps.
I'd post screenshots but imgur is puking..
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Since you work with music I assume you want to be able to carry around your own recordings and productions.
So can't you just transfer the audio files to the iphone and then play them from there (without itunes)?Doesn't Apple have any apps in their store that can play audio files (not in itunes)?
Don't they have file transfer apps in the app store?
Can't you transfer whatever files you want over usb to the iphone with an adapter?I also assume you want to be able to go the other way - record audio & video on the iphone and transfer it to your workstation. Or are you apple there too?
Sorry for the many questions. I use Android and just plug it into my computer to transfer whatever I need however I want. Video files are often big and I sure don't want to wait hours just to move 20-30 Gigs of data - that's why I do it directly.
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@Pete-S said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Doesn't Apple have any apps in their store that can play audio files (not in itunes)?
Don't they have file transfer apps in the app store?
Can't you transfer whatever files you want over usb to the iphone with an adapter?No, No, and No. That would make way too much sense.
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@bnrstnr said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@Pete-S said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Doesn't Apple have any apps in their store that can play audio files (not in itunes)?
Don't they have file transfer apps in the app store?
Can't you transfer whatever files you want over usb to the iphone with an adapter?No, No, and No. That would make way too much sense.
Ohhh, I should have guessed that. My bad.
I just now remembered I had an iPod years ago, 2006 maybe. I used some third party software for that to avoid having to use itunes. At the time I wanted to move audio productions made in protools to the ipod and itunes wasn't compatible. I made it work but eventually upgraded to an audio player that didn't require proprietary software.
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Just for fun I searched for 3rd party software for iphones that would work without itunes.
Found AnyTrans for iOS from iMobie.
It's a content manager app that can transfer audio and other files to and from iphone/ipad/ipod/icloud without the restrictions of itunes. It runs on macOS or Windows.
https://www.imobie.com/support/how-to-transfer-mp3-to-iphone.htmThere are many reviews on the net and it looks legit and good.
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/
It has bandwidth limitations, 1 or 2Mbit, if you have bigger pipe where you host Plex, then exposing port gives you better experience.
I'm streaming from my Plex server located a couple hours away at my house and over wifi on my laptop here and streaming the full 22Mbps movie stream. If your remote and local internet connection can handle it, you can stream at bitstream.
All my music is also on Plex that I stream from there as well.
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@NashBrydges That's most likely direct connection. Plex uses UPnP and NAT-PMP to open ports on router, otherwise you simply cannot connect directly. If you stream through relay, that's where limitation is in place.
