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    • pmonchoP
      pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

      @pmoncho said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

      @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

      Hyper-V is crazy to me, if you aren't forced to use it, how did it even get considered? Just a huge waste of time and resources.

      I'm guessing the only time to use Hyper-V is if the client doesn't want to pay for a hypervisor and wants Veeam agentless?

      If Veeam agentless is a requirement, I've said forever... using your choice of backup product (not even vendor) to determine your infrastructure decisions is serious cart leading horse.

      I get that. That was my thought too. Just a situation I can see happening.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

        @pmoncho said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

        @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

        Hyper-V is crazy to me, if you aren't forced to use it, how did it even get considered? Just a huge waste of time and resources.

        I'm guessing the only time to use Hyper-V is if the client doesn't want to pay for a hypervisor and wants Veeam agentless?

        If Veeam agentless is a requirement, I've said forever... using your choice of backup product (not even vendor) to determine your infrastructure decisions is serious cart leading horse.

        Isn't the cart supposed to lead the horse. I'm certain I've seen that in every Disney Princess movie where the princess is in a cart with a horse pushing said cart off a cliff. . .

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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          @pmoncho said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

          @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

          @pmoncho said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

          @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

          Hyper-V is crazy to me, if you aren't forced to use it, how did it even get considered? Just a huge waste of time and resources.

          I'm guessing the only time to use Hyper-V is if the client doesn't want to pay for a hypervisor and wants Veeam agentless?

          If Veeam agentless is a requirement, I've said forever... using your choice of backup product (not even vendor) to determine your infrastructure decisions is serious cart leading horse.

          I get that. That was my thought too. Just a situation I can see happening.

          Yeah "that people still make bad decisions" will always be a reason for bad decisions LOL

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          • brandon220B
            brandon220
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            I'll just use virt-manager for now. I will have to load Fedora Workstation on my laptop to manage it. Tried to install it under windows (with the Ubuntu stack) but laptop is set up as x86 so it won't work. Not sure why it was set up with 32 bit windows when I purchased it.....

            Going to install KVM this eve and see how it goes.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @brandon220
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              @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

              I'll just use virt-manager for now. I will have to load Fedora Workstation on my laptop to manage it. Tried to install it under windows (with the Ubuntu stack) but laptop is set up as x86 so it won't work. Not sure why it was set up with 32 bit windows when I purchased it.....

              Going to install KVM this eve and see how it goes.

              Why not just reload that laptop to 64 bit?

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              • brandon220B
                brandon220 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 May do that too. I already have the iso on a flash drive.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                  @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                  Not sure why it was set up with 32 bit windows when I purchased it.....

                  Wow, just... wow. lol

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                    @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                    @DustinB3403 May do that too. I already have the iso on a flash drive.

                    Or leap forward, skip Windows 10 64bit, and do Fedora 30 when it comes out this week!

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                    • brandon220B
                      brandon220 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                      @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                      @DustinB3403 May do that too. I already have the iso on a flash drive.

                      Or leap forward, skip Windows 10 64bit, and do Fedora 30 when it comes out this week!

                      Thought about that. I'm so indecisive. That is my biggest fault. 😕
                      I don't have anything on the laptop that 100% requires Windows. I don't use MS Office or Outlook. I have linux desktops in the house but no portable devices.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                        @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                        @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                        @DustinB3403 May do that too. I already have the iso on a flash drive.

                        Or leap forward, skip Windows 10 64bit, and do Fedora 30 when it comes out this week!

                        Thought about that. I'm so indecisive. That is my biggest fault. 😕
                        I don't have anything on the laptop that 100% requires Windows. I don't use MS Office or Outlook. I have linux desktops in the house but no portable devices.

                        100% Linux here. Made the leap, no looking back.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                          @brandon220 how goes the KVM investigation?

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                          • brandon220B
                            brandon220
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                            Great so far. Have not been able to spend as much time with it as I would have liked. I did not care for running virt-manager on Win10 under Ubuntu. I need to get a dedicated linux laptop. I could run Fedora as a VM but dedicated would be preferred.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                              @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                              I need to get a dedicated linux laptop. I could run Fedora as a VM but dedicated would be preferred.

                              That's just better in general 🙂

                              But virt-manager on Windows is still better than Hyper-V's tools.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                I need to get a dedicated linux laptop. I could run Fedora as a VM but dedicated would be preferred.

                                That's just better in general 🙂

                                But virt-manager on Windows is still better than Hyper-V's tools.

                                Can't upvote this enough.

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                  But virt-manager on Windows is still better than Hyper-V's tools.

                                  Yeah i'm liking it now i have it running.
                                  Got it working on my home lab from work 🙂 just need to work out how to "secure" it better for remote access. But that can be another thread 😄

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                                  • brandon220B
                                    brandon220
                                    last edited by brandon220

                                    I have not tried to run a Windows vm on KVM yet....

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @brandon220
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                                      @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                      I have not tried to run a Windows vm on KVM yet....

                                      Seems to work fine for me. I have an XP VM and a Server 2016 VM. Both run well on the same box. 🙂

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @brandon220
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                                        @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                        I have not tried to run a Windows vm on KVM yet....

                                        I have a windows 10 VM on my laptop and desktop for the rare times I need windows.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                          @hobbit666 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                          But virt-manager on Windows is still better than Hyper-V's tools.

                                          Yeah i'm liking it now i have it running.
                                          Got it working on my home lab from work 🙂 just need to work out how to "secure" it better for remote access. But that can be another thread 😄

                                          Virt-Manager is pretty easy to secure, actually one of the big benefits.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                                            @brandon220 said in Choosing KVM over Hyper-V....:

                                            I have not tried to run a Windows vm on KVM yet....

                                            KVM is specifically good for that.

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