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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

      @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

      Change the firewall to direct traffic directly to Exchange, but only allow traffic from CloudFlare (not entirely sure how to get the IPs for this lockdown)

      https://www.cloudflare.com/ips/

      Awesome - thanks..

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

        Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
        Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

        Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

          @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

          Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
          Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

          Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

          I don't follow.

          I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
          Thanks

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

              @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

              @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

              Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
              Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

              Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

              I don't follow.

              I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
              Thanks

              I believe this is where he was going.

              setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
              setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

              setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

              But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

              So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

                One thing at a time. Conflating issues is a horrible common scenario from you.

                While this is needed to get the entire package, don't short circuit the process.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                  @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                  But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

                  One thing at a time. Conflating issues is a horrible common scenario from you.

                  While this is needed to get the entire package, don't short circuit the process.

                  Fine - new post coming.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    fine.jpg

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller still waiting on you to clarify what you meant.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
                        Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

                        Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

                        I don't follow.

                        I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
                        Thanks

                        I believe this is where he was going.

                        setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
                        setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

                        setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

                        But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

                        So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

                        Like that, but more like...

                        webmail.domain.com on CF A Record
                        webmail.wtfdomain.com on LAN DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com
                        webmail.wtfdomain.com on Public DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                          @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                          @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                          @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                          Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
                          Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

                          Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

                          I don't follow.

                          I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
                          Thanks

                          I believe this is where he was going.

                          setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
                          setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

                          setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

                          But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

                          So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

                          Like that, but more like...

                          webmail.domain.com on CF A Record
                          webmail.wtfdomain.com on LAN DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com
                          webmail.wtfdomain.com on Public DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com

                          Ok, a second domain. That I expect to work liek this.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                            I'm frazzled this morning - so I might be missing something.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                              Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                              I'm frazzled this morning - so I might be missing something.

                              I would just use an A record on your local DNS pointing to WTF ever Cloudflare resolves your FQDN to.

                              But paying more attention to what @scottalanmiller said, he has that backwards on the second domain.

                              CF: A Record: webmail.domain.com pointing to your public IP, orange cloud on.
                              CF: CNAME: webmail.wtfdomain.com pointing to webmail.domain.com
                              Local DNS: CNAME: webmail.domain.com pointing to webmail.wtfdomain.com

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                                Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                                Yes, because someone screwed up with the original domain, so yes, you need to either fix that or do something to work around it. Mistakes have costs, this is a pretty trivial one.

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