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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

      @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

      @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
      Also, what about the user/device CALs?

      You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

      No, they actually do vary.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

        @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

        @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

        @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
        Also, what about the user/device CALs?

        You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

        No, they actually do vary.

        Oh great. More reasons to be disgruntled with Microsoft licensing.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

          @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

          @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

          @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
          Also, what about the user/device CALs?

          You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

          No, they actually do vary.

          What did I miss? Why would the CAL needs vary with the DC, etc in colo instead of on site? There is no difference.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Question about AWS:

            @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

            @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

            @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

            @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
            Also, what about the user/device CALs?

            You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

            No, they actually do vary.

            What did I miss? Why would the CAL needs vary with the DC, etc in colo instead of on site? There is no difference.

            Cloud licensing with Windows includes CALs. On prem (and colo) you have to manage the CALs.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

              @JaredBusch said in Question about AWS:

              @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

              @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

              @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

              @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
              Also, what about the user/device CALs?

              You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

              No, they actually do vary.

              What did I miss? Why would the CAL needs vary with the DC, etc in colo instead of on site? There is no difference.

              Cloud licensing with Windows includes CALs. On prem (and colo) you have to manage the CALs.

              Putting a server on Lightsail is not cloud licensing. It is a VPS.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Question about AWS:

                @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

                @JaredBusch said in Question about AWS:

                @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

                @travisdh1 said in Question about AWS:

                @wrx7m said in Question about AWS:

                @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:
                Also, what about the user/device CALs?

                You'd need the same amount of CALs no matter what, so kinda pointless to compare. Assuming I remember the licensing terms correctly.

                No, they actually do vary.

                What did I miss? Why would the CAL needs vary with the DC, etc in colo instead of on site? There is no difference.

                Cloud licensing with Windows includes CALs. On prem (and colo) you have to manage the CALs.

                Putting a server on Lightsail is not cloud licensing. It is a VPS.

                The licensing necessary for any hosted environment is the same. Lightsail is VPS, yes, but also cloud on E2. The licensing is the same.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Lightsail is still elastic capacity and has no possibility of being licensed in a traditional model.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    @scottalanmiller said in Question about AWS:

                    Lightsail is still elastic capacity and has no possibility of being licensed in a traditional model.

                    There is no Elastic capacity in Lightsail. You have to convert it away from Lightsail.

                    SO unless all VPS have to use that license model?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Question about AWS:

                      SO unless all VPS have to use that license model?

                      All VPS is elastic. All VPS is hosted. Therefore all VPS must use that model.

                      If you BUY the server license, you must buy the CALs.
                      If you RENT the server license, you must be rented the CALs.

                      There isn't any Windows Server license with CALs that can be used by a hosting provider or on other peoples' hardware.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        It is because of this licensing discrepency that we know that CloudAtCost was running a scam. They advertised Windows servers that were unlicensed, and unlicensable.

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