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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
That means you hate all Muslims.
Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?
Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.
Um, what? LOL You accused me of having a religious hatred in a conversation about racism about feelings I never had.
What corner?
The corner of you having admitted to condoning a war in a country based on the believe that people who attacked the US were Muslim.
When did I condone any war. And what war is it that you think I condoned?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
That means you hate all Muslims.
Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?
Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.
You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.
This does still mean that you are a racist.
What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?
You agree that the war after 911 was acceptable, yet that was was specifically and blatantly targeting Muslims.
Hence you must be racist because you've agreed that the war is A-OKAY in your book.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
And you're attempting to stick to the most direct application of the definition of racism as being "by skin color only" when racism is equally applied to "hating anyone of a particular group, faction, skin, religion or other identifier".
By strict you mean "only", in this case.
I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.
Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
That means you hate all Muslims.
Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?
Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.
You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.
This does still mean that you are a racist.
What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?
You agree that the war after 911 was acceptable, yet that was was specifically and blatantly targeting Muslims.
I never agreed to that. I said that people who supported it were racists. I've never agreed with any war that the US has engaged in since 1960.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.
Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.
FFS. Is this really difficult to understand?
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And I know that you will completely twist that, but it does not imply that I agree with all wars prior to 1960. But I know you are planning to go there.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.
Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.
No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.
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But regardless, you think that I have a religious hatred of a group. But have said no reason why you believe this to be true.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.
Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.
No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.
You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.
Absolutely insane.
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An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.
The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.
Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.
No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.
You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.
Absolutely insane.
Well I provided the dictionary definition. So the dictionary is insane.
You are desperately on a tangent and avoiding providing the proof that I hate Muslims.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_discrimination
Weird that this isn't under racism, right?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.
The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.
Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religiously intolerant and racist at the same time.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.
The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.
Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religious intolerant and racist at the same time.
It is not. They are totally different concepts, as I explained why. You can't lump involuntary groups with voluntary societies. SO different, obviously. Would be insane to even suggest otherwise.
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So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?
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Which, I have to say, is really weird to call me of all people, because as a deist I see all of that religious group as one Christians, Muslims, Judaism... it's all one group.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?
You said you condoned the war on terrorism. Which is known to be a war against Muslims of the middle east.
By condoning a war against an entire race of people (middle east) based on your religious intolerance, you are not only racist but also religious intolerant.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:
So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?
You said you condoned the war on terrorism.
Where?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:
By condoning a war against an entire race of people (middle east) based on your religious intolerance, you are not only racist but also religious intolerant.
I get that. I don't disagree. But where did I condone it?