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    • tonyshowoffT
      tonyshowoff @dave_c
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      @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      1. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)

      This happens from time to time when some project I worked on is handed over to some new guy, they often are baffled by the concept of "I use SSH, I don't install anything on the server not needed, it's just Apache, PHP, and MySQL, and SSH" or whatever.

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        dave_c
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        @JaredBusch , @scottalanmiller
        I have not been that lucky lately. Specially since I am upgrading from PHP 5.6 to 7.2, some plugins just break, although in most cases it is because the plugin is old and has not been updated by the developer.
        Anyway, the current case is not a PHP upgrade

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          On the train home. Made the 5:46 express by less than a minute.

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            dave_c @tonyshowoff
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            @tonyshowoff
            You are right. I meant web designers

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dave_c
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              @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @JaredBusch , @scottalanmiller
              I have not been that lucky lately. Specially since I am upgrading from PHP 5.6 to 7.2, some plugins just break, although in most cases it is because the plugin is old and has not been updated by the developer.

              Plugins breaking is not at all the same as WP breaking. Is WP breaking?

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                dave_c @tonyshowoff
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                @tonyshowoff
                Absolutely. I am slowly "forcing" the move from cPanel to Linux without a control Panel. So far, the sites moved are working very well

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                  dave_c @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller
                  How do you catalog this?

                  This page isn’t working xxxx.com is currently unable to handle this request.
                  HTTP ERROR 500
                  

                  It is caused by Ultimate Addons for Visual Composer plugin

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    Spent a busy day digging deep into this Asterisk to FreePBX migration. Migrated all of the extensions. Total count 946 or something like that.

                    Setup 3 phones to test EPM. They have old Aastra 6737i phones. Mitel bought Aastra ages ago.

                    The entire thing has to be turned into a scripted process before I can even run a limited go live test.

                    The extensions were the easy part.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                      @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Web developers with no idea:
                      4. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)
                      5. The mess with DNS, really, why?
                      6. They choose poor plugins

                      Why are your web designers even being brought in under these conditions?

                      I'm not a fan of cPanel or its ilk, I think that this makes web sites harder to maintain.

                      Why are designers choosing plugins?

                      This sounds like deeper issues with letting the wrong people do the wrong tasks.

                      Your IT team needs to be managing the platform, you can't just throw IT tasks over to the art team and expect the artists to know what they are doing. If you treat WordPress like the enterprise application that it is, I think that you'll find none of these issues exists. If you treated anything in this way, desktops, servers, databases, etc. you'd have loads of issues from random non-IT people breaking things that they don't understand.

                      IT should be ...

                      1. Not allowed designers like this have any say in what goes on.
                      2. Maintaining the platforms properly themselves.

                      Problems can still arise, but the rarely do.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dave_c
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                        @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller
                        How do you catalog this?

                        This page isn’t working xxxx.com is currently unable to handle this request.
                        HTTP ERROR 500
                        

                        It is caused by Ultimate Addons for Visual Composer plugin

                        Plugin, not WP.

                        Yeah it means the site is down too, but the cause is not WP.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                          @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller
                          How do you catalog this?

                          This page isn’t working xxxx.com is currently unable to handle this request.
                          HTTP ERROR 500
                          

                          It is caused by Ultimate Addons for Visual Composer plugin

                          That's a PLUGIN issue caused by something that is absolutely not Wordpress. That's like having a bad app and blaming Windows.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                            @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @tonyshowoff
                            Absolutely. I am slowly "forcing" the move from cPanel to Linux without a control Panel. So far, the sites moved are working very well

                            We did that, much improved. Faster site, lower cost, easier management. No idea why people want cPanel.

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                              dave_c @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch
                              Awesome, platform migration and 900+ extensions in that time!
                              My record is 500+ extensions from Asterisx to Yeastar

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                How do you catalog this?

                                This page isn’t working xxxx.com is currently unable to handle this request.
                                HTTP ERROR 500
                                

                                It is caused by Ultimate Addons for Visual Composer plugin

                                That's a PLUGIN issue caused by something that is absolutely not Wordpress. That's like having a bad app and blaming Windows.

                                But I like to blame Windows....

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller
                                  How do you catalog this?

                                  This page isn’t working xxxx.com is currently unable to handle this request.
                                  HTTP ERROR 500
                                  

                                  It is caused by Ultimate Addons for Visual Composer plugin

                                  That's a PLUGIN issue caused by something that is absolutely not Wordpress. That's like having a bad app and blaming Windows.

                                  But I like to blame Windows....

                                  Me too.

                                  Shakes fist at the window.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @dave_c
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                                    @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @JaredBusch
                                    Awesome, platform migration and 900+ extensions in that time!
                                    My record is 500+ extensions from Asterisx to Yeastar

                                    Oh this will be March before I am done most likely. I just got serious today.

                                    Yesterday was putting tools in places and comparing data.

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                                    • CloudKnightC
                                      CloudKnight
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                                      I'm not going to slag off Wordpress, I think it's good, you just need to make sure that you limit logins and keep it up to date. I use it myself and love what you can do with the platform.

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                                      • tonyshowoffT
                                        tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller In my experience those who want cPanel, not those forced to install it by some jackass admin or something, tend to because they lack confidence and experience with configuration and management within the Unix world.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                                          @StuartJordan said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          I'm not going to slag off Wordpress, I think it's good, you just need to make sure that you limit logins and keep it up to date. I use it myself and love what you can do with the platform.

                                          And not add bad things on top of it. A bad theme or plugin is part of the code and going to break things.

                                          We very carefully only use a few, tested, trusted, maintained plugins. Gotta keep it lean.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller In my experience those who want cPanel, not those forced to install it by some jackass admin or something, tend to because they lack confidence and experience with configuration and management within the Unix world.

                                            Exactly the people who shouldn't be managing servers 😉

                                            cPanel... letting you do things you don't know how to do so you can up the ante for when the disaster finally strikes.

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