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      scotth @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scotth
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        @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

        @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

        OK a static VPN could work for your backup solution... super easy to do with a pair of ER-Ls.

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          scotth @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

          @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

          @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

          OK a static VPN could work for your backup solution... super easy to do with a pair of ER-Ls.

          OK, I'll bite....ER-Ls?

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            scottalanmiller @scotth
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            @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

            @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

            Ubiquiti will do VPN really well, too, though.

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              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              @scottalanmiller said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              @scottalanmiller said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

              pfSense and OPNsense webui is pretty good when it comes to management. What other services were you using with Sophos?

              IPS, Spam filtering, https proxy, antivirus. That's about it.

              For home?

              Yes

              Put AV on the desktops, no reason to have it on the network layer.

              SPAM filtering should be on the server, not on the IMAP link.

              Spam filtering is a real thing to consider. if you're email service doesn't have great spam filtering, consider switching to another one that does.

              Right, this should never happen at the firewall level. That means that you get filtered when home, but not when at the store, for example. That's a major weird problem.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scotth
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                @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

                OK a static VPN could work for your backup solution... super easy to do with a pair of ER-Ls.

                OK, I'll bite....ER-Ls?

                EdgeRouter Lite https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/

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                  scotth @coliver
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                  @coliver said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                  @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                  @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                  @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                  @Dashrender The VPN started out as a support convenience. Now, my brother and I are thinking of using it to store our backups to each other's server(s). Other than that, I really like the way Mesh Central looks and am going to pop that in as well. I'm actually considering that for our locations here.

                  OK a static VPN could work for your backup solution... super easy to do with a pair of ER-Ls.

                  OK, I'll bite....ER-Ls?

                  EdgeRouter Lite https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/

                  Ah.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    pfSense or OPNSense makes it easy to setup and manage squid proxy.

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                    • Emad RE
                      Emad R @scotth
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                      @scotth

                      They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                      When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                      However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                      https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Emad R
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                        @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                        @scotth

                        They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                        WUT? How is the hypervisor handicapping the solution?

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                          scotth @Emad R
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                          @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                          @scotth

                          They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                          When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                          However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                          https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                          After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                          I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                          EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scotth
                            last edited by

                            @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                            @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                            @scotth

                            They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                            When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                            However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                            https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                            After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                            I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                            EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                            For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                            Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                              @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                              @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                              @scotth

                              They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                              When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                              However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                              https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                              After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                              I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                              EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                              For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                              Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                              SSD will help squid proxy cache.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                @scotth

                                They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                SSD will help squid proxy cache.

                                how useful is that in a home network?

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                                  scotth @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                  @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                  @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                  @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                  @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                  @scotth

                                  They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                  When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                  However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                  https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                  After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                  I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                  EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                  For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                  Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                  SSD will help squid proxy cache.

                                  how useful is that in a home network?

                                  I'm hoping that it'll impede momma and kid from being blatantly foolish in their cruising activities.

                                  <<yes, I have attempted to share information about foolish behavior on the internet>>

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @scotth
                                    last edited by

                                    @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                    @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                    @scotth

                                    They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                    When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                    However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                    https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                    After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                    I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                    EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                    @WrCombs needs that, lol. Your router has 300% the power of his brand new laptop!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                      @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                      @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                      @scotth

                                      They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                      When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                      However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                      https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                      After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                      I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                      EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                      For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                      Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                      It should not.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                        @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                        @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                        @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                        @scotth

                                        They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                        When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                        However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                        https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                        After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                        I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                        EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                        For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                        Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                        SSD will help squid proxy cache.

                                        Only if the cache is larger than RAM.

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                                          scottalanmiller @scotth
                                          last edited by

                                          @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                          @scotth

                                          They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                          When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                          However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                          https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                          After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                          I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                          EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                          For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                          Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                          SSD will help squid proxy cache.

                                          how useful is that in a home network?

                                          I'm hoping that it'll impede momma and kid from being blatantly foolish in their cruising activities.

                                          <<yes, I have attempted to share information about foolish behavior on the internet>>

                                          A cache cannot do that.

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                                            scotth @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @black3dynamite said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @Dashrender said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @scotth said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @Emad-R said in pfSense vs OPNSense - Fanboy fued or real differences?:

                                            @scotth

                                            They are both great, but when you want to scale you want them on hardware and not VM that will handicap your hypervisor.

                                            When you think about hardware and low power, there are alot of alterantives better than those 2 and cheaper, netgate provides PFsense but for 200$ ad the idea of desktop machine acting as router and using alot of power does not make sense to me.

                                            However pi3 or better makes perfect sense, but guess what neither PFsense or OPN runs on ARM

                                            https://store.netgate.com/MBT-2220-system.aspx

                                            After my lab, I'm planning to load it up on an HP Elite 8300 SFF i5 quad core with 8 GB RAM and an addin dual Intel NIC. It's what I'm running Sophos on now. I don't experience any issues with this setup.
                                            I picked it up for $100 during a desktop refresh.
                                            EDIT: I'm also planning retire my spinning drive.

                                            For home use - a desktop class machine is totally fine.
                                            Not sure an SSD will make any difference in the performance of the firewall though.

                                            SSD will help squid proxy cache.

                                            how useful is that in a home network?

                                            I'm hoping that it'll impede momma and kid from being blatantly foolish in their cruising activities.

                                            <<yes, I have attempted to share information about foolish behavior on the internet>>

                                            A cache cannot do that.

                                            Sorry, proxy

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