Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?
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@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
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I do it, it works really well with MS everything... Since I buy a yearly personal subscription to O365, it all "just works" with email, onedrive, etc... I don't have to do anything.
And yes, it seems the personal stuff works way better more reliably than enterprise... shrug
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@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
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@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
Have you seen a lot of home users doing this? I have not, of course my cross section is tiny. But of the ones I see that have zero tech skills, they all skip it because it is scary and confusing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
Have you seen a lot of home users doing this? I have not, of course my cross section is tiny. But of the ones I see that have zero tech skills, they all skip it because it is scary and confusing.
The option to skip it's obvious enough for most people I run into - they just do it, even if that means setting up a new account.
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I constantly skip the MS account because it's just irritating to need yet another account.
And I don't want everything tied together.
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@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
Have you seen a lot of home users doing this? I have not, of course my cross section is tiny. But of the ones I see that have zero tech skills, they all skip it because it is scary and confusing.
The option to skip it's obvious enough for most people I run into - they just do it, even if that means setting up a new account.
It is obvious? not really. And even if they see it and click on it, you have to refuse once or twice more.
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@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
Have you seen a lot of home users doing this? I have not, of course my cross section is tiny. But of the ones I see that have zero tech skills, they all skip it because it is scary and confusing.
The option to skip it's obvious enough for most people I run into - they just do it, even if that means setting up a new account.
It is obvious? not really. And even if they see it and click on it, you have to refuse once or twice more.
Whoops - I meant - NOT super obvious... normal users will be guilted into using an MS account in most cases.
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@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Dashrender said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@JaredBusch said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@scottalanmiller said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
@Obsolesce said in Why, in 2018, is Microsoft adding security questions to Windows 10?:
This only occurs, that I've seen, during OOBE when you set up the PC as a local, non-domain, non-Microsoft-Account, user.
Correct, as a standard local account. The "normal" way. Most people don't use AD, even in business this is dropping off quickly. And lots of people don't want to deal with those ridiculous MS accounts that they try to ram down everyone's throats. And who knows how secure those are, anyway.
That is not the normal way to set up windows anymore and has not been for quite a while. The normal way to set up windows is with a Microsoft account. In fact you have to click no to setting up a Microsoft account multiple times in order to set up a PC without a Microsoft account
That's what they promote, but I wonder how many people are actually doing that.
Probably most that don’t use AD. Of course some will not, but not many.
I tend to agree - most home users will use a MS account simply because it's what's presented. IT folks and some programmers might not, but I'm willing to bet it's way over half that do.
Have you seen a lot of home users doing this? I have not, of course my cross section is tiny. But of the ones I see that have zero tech skills, they all skip it because it is scary and confusing.
The option to skip it's obvious enough for most people I run into - they just do it, even if that means setting up a new account.
It is obvious? not really. And even if they see it and click on it, you have to refuse once or twice more.
Whoops - I meant - NOT super obvious... normal users will be guilted into using an MS account in most cases.
yeah the first two times it took me a moment to notice you could skip.