SPAM Filtering with Zimbra
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@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
"MX Guarddog pricing is $0.25 per email address, per month. Pay only for the number of email addresses at your domain. There is no cost for user aliases or domain aliases."
That's a conflicting statement. Is it per email address or not? Aliases are new addresses.
That would be pretty great, if they meant it. But the "pay per address" is what turned us away, we have SO many aliases.
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@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
Don't know if you want to try these: https://www.mxguarddog.com/
think it's only $0.25 per mailbox per month....I'd looked at them and it was not per mailbox, but by per alias. So the actual cost for us was more than O365 or Gmail!
where are you seeing that scott?
https://www.mxguarddog.com/pricing/Yeah, that page. Pay per address, not mailbox. Per mailbox is what we are hoping for with this kind of service because we have so many domains.
I signed up for the trial to see what happens.
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@scottalanmiller Let me know how you get on, interested in how good it is.
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SpamHero has been pretty solid for us. I have a reseller account because it allows me to keep track on my client's accounts and you also get individual quarantines for all users without the extra monthly fee ($1/user/month).
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@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
Per mailbox is what we are hoping for with this kind of service because we have so many domains.
Can't you just forward them all to one mailbox?
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@aaronstuder said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
Per mailbox is what we are hoping for with this kind of service because we have so many domains.
Can't you just forward them all to one mailbox?
Yes, they do, but they are all separate on the outside. Hence the issue.
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@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
SpamHero has been pretty solid for us. I have a reseller account because it allows me to keep track on my client's accounts and you also get individual quarantines for all users without the extra monthly fee ($1/user/month).
how do they track the users?
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@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller Let me know how you get on, interested in how good it is.
First piece, the aliases ARE free, but they have to be aliases in front of the email system, not within the email system. So you have to maintain the aliases externally. Not a huge deal and explains how they do it, but also a big pain and not portable. But fixes the pricing issue.
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@aaronstuder said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
Per mailbox is what we are hoping for with this kind of service because we have so many domains.
Can't you just forward them all to one mailbox?
That is not how anything works.....
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@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller Let me know how you get on, interested in how good it is.
First piece, the aliases ARE free, but they have to be aliases in front of the email system, not within the email system. So you have to maintain the aliases externally. Not a huge deal and explains how they do it, but also a big pain and not portable. But fixes the pricing issue.
So they have to be maintained in the MXGuardDog system?
That is the same as wht I have to do with Google's solution.
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@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
SpamHero has been pretty solid for us. I have a reseller account because it allows me to keep track on my client's accounts and you also get individual quarantines for all users without the extra monthly fee ($1/user/month).
how do they track the users?
They don't track users unless you want individual quarantines. If you go off their non reseller options, then it is 100,000 emails per month for $5. You pay another $5 for an additional 100,000 emails. However, if you pay for individual quarantines you get additional emails as well.
The reseller account gives you the individual quarantines for free but no the additional emails. You still get 100,000 but then have to pay for overages.
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@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
SpamHero has been pretty solid for us. I have a reseller account because it allows me to keep track on my client's accounts and you also get individual quarantines for all users without the extra monthly fee ($1/user/month).
how do they track the users?
They don't track users unless you want individual quarantines. If you go off their non reseller options, then it is 100,000 emails per month for $5. You pay another $5 for an additional 100,000 emails. However, if you pay for individual quarantines you get additional emails as well.
The reseller account gives you the individual quarantines for free but no the additional emails. You still get 100,000 but then have to pay for overages.
that's more of what I want, pay per email
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We pay per email outbound now.
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@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
SpamHero has been pretty solid for us. I have a reseller account because it allows me to keep track on my client's accounts and you also get individual quarantines for all users without the extra monthly fee ($1/user/month).
Their pricing looks really attractive as well.
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@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
We pay per email outbound now.
They have outbound in some of their plans too. Like I said, sign up as a reseller even if the plan isn’t to resell. You get way more under that plan.
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@syko24 said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
We pay per email outbound now.
They have outbound in some of their plans too. Like I said, sign up as a reseller even if the plan isn’t to resell. You get way more under that plan.
Good advice. I'll look into that.
We use MailGun for outbound email and it has been great. Super reliable and super cheap. And MangoLassi uses them.
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In the past I used SpamExperts; I don't know the current price but it used to be per domain, not per mail address. Just consider that it is now owned by Solarwinds.
Depending of the situation:
- rspamd, works very well but needs to be configured properly. It is used in mailcow, I like it.
- SpamAssassin + things.
- Otherwise, whatever comes with the email service, like the default anti SPAM of Office 365
Mixed results, no doubt. You know, the more work I put on configuration and training the better results.
On the enterprise side, I have heard great things about Mimecast (obviously), Roaring Penguin and Cyren
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@dave_c said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
In the past I used SpamExperts; I don't know the current price but it used to be per domain, not per mail address. Just consider that it is now owned by Solarwinds.
Oh yeah, good point. That's a show stopper here. We have had serious legal issues with Solarwinds and won't consider any product they've tainted. Serious ethical and legal problems.
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@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@dave_c said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
In the past I used SpamExperts; I don't know the current price but it used to be per domain, not per mail address. Just consider that it is now owned by Solarwinds.
Oh yeah, good point. That's a show stopper here. We have had serious legal issues with Solarwinds and won't consider any product they've tainted. Serious ethical and legal problems.
That doesn't sound good!
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@StuartJordan said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@scottalanmiller said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
@dave_c said in SPAM Filtering with Zimbra:
In the past I used SpamExperts; I don't know the current price but it used to be per domain, not per mail address. Just consider that it is now owned by Solarwinds.
Oh yeah, good point. That's a show stopper here. We have had serious legal issues with Solarwinds and won't consider any product they've tainted. Serious ethical and legal problems.
That doesn't sound good!
Yeah, we had to threaten a lawsuit several times. They repeatedly got involved in "slamming"... creating false bills (we were never a customer at all), threatening us, sent us to collections, etc. The only person from their company allowed to talk to us is their corporate counsel in London. Anyone else contacts us again is immediate legal action. It took years and they finally admitted that they had been lying about fixing the fake accounts and were using that to stall to get money from the collections people.
