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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

      Users would access the https stuff over web browser, but agents on their computers would be trying to connect to the same server.domain.com over some custom port, lets say 52274 for example.

      Which you'd not point to the proxy. So that's easily fixed by not existing as a problem in the first place 🙂

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

        @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

        @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

        Yes, Let's Encrypt is the one to use and the one I normally use for everything, but this is for an appliance we don't have access to in order to automate certificate renewals.

        Is automation that important?

        Yes, unless you want to volunteer to log in to the interface every so often and select the new cert for it to use, setting up something else to do the automation and getting it from there.

        Dont' you have to do that with all of them, if you don't automate? But LE is simple and the others are a huge pain. So without automation, I'd say LE is even more important.

        Yes, once every two years typically. Still annoying, but easier to grab those certs than grabbing them from a separate server into the format you need to import them into the appliance.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato
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          One thing, if you don't want automation but want free SSL you can use ZeroSSL
          https://zerossl.com/
          but you need to install it every 90 days since it is LE.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

            @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

            Users would access the https stuff over web browser, but agents on their computers would be trying to connect to the same server.domain.com over some custom port, lets say 52274 for example.

            Which you'd not point to the proxy. So that's easily fixed by not existing as a problem in the first place 🙂

            I haven't given it much thought yet, but ya you're right. It's a non issue.

            appliance.domain.com points to the public IP. Port 443 gets forwarded to the reverse proxy, port 52274 gets forwarded to the appliance.

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              marcinozga @Obsolesce
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              @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

              @marcinozga said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

              Can you put reverse proxy in front of that appliance and automate certs on proxy?

              Hmm, perhaps. I didn't think of that, but there are other services besides https that the proxy would need to pass through to the server then. Is that possible? Users would access the https stuff over web browser, but agents on their computers would be trying to connect to the same server.domain.com over some custom port, lets say 52274 for example.

              Yes, it can be done, with Nginx for example.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                One thing, if you don't want automation but want free SSL you can use ZeroSSL
                https://zerossl.com/
                but you need to install it every 90 days since it is LE.

                That would still be an issue here. I'll just go the reverse proxy route with NGINX. Full automation with LE means zero maintenance. No automation with LE means way too much maintenance. 2-year SSL cert from somewhere else means less maintenance, but costs.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @Obsolesce
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                  @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                  @dbeato said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                  One thing, if you don't want automation but want free SSL you can use ZeroSSL
                  https://zerossl.com/
                  but you need to install it every 90 days since it is LE.

                  That would still be an issue here. I'll just go the reverse proxy route with NGINX. Full automation with LE means zero maintenance. No automation with LE means way too much maintenance. 2-year SSL cert from somewhere else means less maintenance, but costs.

                  Yeah, I am giving you the orher alternatives that make it so much easier to use a proxy for it.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @Obsolesce
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                    @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                    @dbeato said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                    I have been using Namecheap
                    https://www.namecheap.com/security/ssl-certificates.aspx

                    Or Godaddy at times.

                    What's their root ca?

                    For Godaddy they are their own and NameCheap uses Comodo.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      Cloudflare does free SSL. That's what I used for my blog since it's GitLab pages and you can't automate the LetsEncrypt part with them. It's valid for I think 15 years.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                        Cloudflare does free SSL. That's what I used for my blog since it's GitLab pages and you can't automate the LetsEncrypt part with them. It's valid for I think 15 years.

                        Wow really?

                        I'll see if I can find that.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                          @stacksofplates said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                          Cloudflare does free SSL. That's what I used for my blog since it's GitLab pages and you can't automate the LetsEncrypt part with them. It's valid for I think 15 years.

                          It's only free for personal websites, this would be for production use.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            I can't just get the cert?

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
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                              That must be for CDN. DNS is free along with the stuff like certs.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @Obsolesce
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                                @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                I can't just get the cert?

                                You have to set your domain up in it.

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @Obsolesce
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                                  @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                  Cloudflare does free SSL. That's what I used for my blog since it's GitLab pages and you can't automate the LetsEncrypt part with them. It's valid for I think 15 years.

                                  It's only free for personal websites, this would be for production use.

                                  0_1537558852487_1d52ae71-8507-4563-8f33-58046fc73ece-image.png

                                  Free for Business too, read the description 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                    @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                    I can't just get the cert?

                                    They dont' provide certs, they are a CDN.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                      @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                      I can't just get the cert?

                                      You have to set your domain up in it.

                                      They did this new wording a few days ago.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                        @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                        Cloudflare does free SSL. That's what I used for my blog since it's GitLab pages and you can't automate the LetsEncrypt part with them. It's valid for I think 15 years.

                                        Wow really?

                                        I'll see if I can find that.

                                        You just set it up and turn your cloud orange. There is nothing to install.

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                                        • dbeatoD
                                          dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                          @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                          I can't just get the cert?

                                          They dont' provide certs, they are a CDN.

                                          They can provide you the Origin SSL cert that only works using their CDN.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                            @dbeato said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                            @obsolesce said in Need SSL cert - What's next best?:

                                            I can't just get the cert?

                                            They dont' provide certs, they are a CDN.

                                            They can provide you the Origin SSL cert that only works using their CDN.

                                            Oh, didn't know. But makes sense.

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