Recommendations for Cameras
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@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@DustinB3403 Settle down. Nobody said anything about deterring theft. You inferred that on your own. The purpose of the cameras is more for HR defense then anything.
The use case is still to "deter bad behavior". I could go back and edit every post and they are still 100% accurate and true.
Your boss is being emotional about this.
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@dustinb3403 said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@DustinB3403 Settle down. Nobody said anything about deterring theft. You inferred that on your own. The purpose of the cameras is more for HR defense then anything.
The use case is still to "deter bad behavior". I could go back and edit every post and they are still 100% accurate and true.
Your boss is being emotional about this.
Well, For the defensive of people in general, We arent robots who think logically 100% of the time.
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But there isn't any room for emotion in the conversation.
"I need a recommendation to be able to record and possibly deter bad behavior in/around the office"
There is no reason that the recommendation needs to look tough, the recommendation isn't a bouncer at a bar. . .
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I cannot help what my boss thinks and feels. I can talk to him logically all day long, but when its done, it is still his decision. So, lets move on from the emotions. I asked for recommendations, not criticism. Lets move on.
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@wrcombs said in Recommendations for Cameras:
more serious looking cameras
But for those prices. . .these look more like toys than the Ubnt stuff, imo
Maybe he wants something like these:
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@bnrstnr said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@wrcombs said in Recommendations for Cameras:
more serious looking cameras
But for those prices. . .these look more like toys than the Ubnt stuff, imo
I was going to say the same. . . lol
I think he wants something like these:
https://www.axis.com/en-us/products/axis-q16-seriesAnd I bet these work about as well as the options already discussed, but cost way more and have less features.
This topic feels like one about ESXi Free vs Everything else. .
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I have not mentioned price and I want to keep it that way. Can't be wireless. They will be too far apart.
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@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
I cannot help what my boss thinks and feels. I can talk to him logically all day long, but when its done, it is still his decision. So, lets move on from the emotions. I asked for recommendations, not criticism. Lets move on.
I'm not criticizing you, I'm criticizing the moron you report to.
Tell him you have more installation options with the Ubiquiti gear, it's easy to setup and maintain and expand. And it won't cost
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@dustinb3403 said in Recommendations for Cameras:
He wants something "more serious looking" what does that even mean?
I have had great experience with these:
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@bnrstnr said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@wrcombs said in Recommendations for Cameras:
more serious looking cameras
But for those prices. . .these look more like toys than the Ubnt stuff, imo
Maybe he wants something like these:
https://www.axis.com/en-us/products/axis-q16-seriesI google searched "serious Looking security cameras" and that popped up.
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@obsolesce said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@dustinb3403 said in Recommendations for Cameras:
He wants something "more serious looking" what does that even mean?
I have had great experience with these:
Hands down I would lose it if I saw these.
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Here's the perfect set-up:
There's no way anyone would commit a crime being recorded by a panda.
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I'd have to do a little jig and dance if I was caught doing something illegal with these things. Lol
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Checked out Meraki as we already use them for the wifi. Not at $1000-$1500/camera.
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@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
Checked out Meraki as we already use them for the wifi. Not at $1000-$1500/camera.
especially not at $1000-$1500 / camera. Looked through and about spit out my coffee when i saw the pricing.
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@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
Checked out Meraki as we already use them for the wifi. Not at $1000-$1500/camera.
question: is that what your boss is considering "more serious looking"? no criticism, want to know what kind you are looking for. . . SO we can give better suggestions.
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Of course you can't have Ubiquiti IP cameras. Can't have "home" equipment when you're talking about a serious installation with 80-100 cameras in two locations.
You need to look at this from a physical security perspective, not from a network gear perspective.
Obviously you are going to have some serious cabling and installation to be done as well so the entire project isn't just about buying a few IP cameras. You need to look at companies that does installations of this size and see what brands they offer. There are many brands but big ones are for example Sony, Axis, Canon. So start by finding out what CCTV suppliers and installers you have in your region and get some quotes on what you need.
PS. The "look" your boss wants is from the outdoor housings. But not all cameras needs outdoor housings, it depends on what they are going to be used for and the environmental conditions it mounted in.
I have experience with Axis in plants and they are good. Also have some experience with D-link Business IP cameras in plants and they worked fine but if they are a good choice or not would depend on the kind of support you can get.
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@wrcombs said in Recommendations for Cameras:
@nerdydad said in Recommendations for Cameras:
Checked out Meraki as we already use them for the wifi. Not at $1000-$1500/camera.
question: is that what your boss is considering "more serious looking"? no criticism, want to know what kind you are looking for. . . SO we can give better suggestions.
Mainly dome cameras and bullet cameras. Similar to Axis or Avigilon.
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@pete-s Love this idea but have tried it. It got shot down by the "higher powers that be" because it was too costly for the ROI or something like that. So now the basic idea is to purchase the core equipment now (NVR, switches, and some cameras) now, and then every quarter, replace a few cameras until they are all replaced. Keeps the costs under the radar while still getting what we need.
