Resume Critique
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@dustinb3403 said in Resume Critique:
The title, even if worthless is an honest describer for the position you held. (even if it doesn't align with your role(s).)
No, it is not. A title never tells that. It might, in some cases, suggest it. But even then, it's nothing but a suggestion of intent, but only a suggestion. Titles tell a prospective employer literally nothing.
You can even give a title like CEO to a janitor, as long as he is not listed as a principle on the corporate filings. Even titles like those, mean nothing without the role behind them.
Bottom line, roles always matter, titles never do.
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@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title". Then there's a "Job Description". No where, that I have ever seen, is a little place for "Role". I've recently done this dance a bunch of times and I do not remember seeing a "role" field. Only "Employer" and "Job Title".
So true.
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@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
You put your Employer and your title there. Then you can list your role if you want, and responsibilities.
No, resumes get rules, not titles. Putting a title on a resume as if it is a role is lying. There is no place on a resume for titles. That's not a thing.
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title".
Yes, places like McDonald's hiring for minimum wage work and having you fill out a form. Filling out forms, you fill out what you are told to fill out. That doesn't relate to a resume, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
You put your Employer and your title there. Then you can list your role if you want, and responsibilities.
No, resumes get rules, not titles. Putting a title on a resume as if it is a role is lying. There is no place on a resume for titles. That's not a thing.
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title".
Yes, places like McDonald's hiring for minimum wage work and having you fill out a form. Filling out forms, you fill out what you are told to fill out. That doesn't relate to a resume, though.
No, places that offer over 6 figures...
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Keep something in mind as we discuss this, which I think helps...
Employer / Role - this is hiring information used on a resume to determine if you are a good candidate.
Employer / Title - this is hiring verification information used to validate with a previous employer that you actually worked there.
Title has a place, but it's very different than what is needed on a resume.
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@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
You put your Employer and your title there. Then you can list your role if you want, and responsibilities.
No, resumes get rules, not titles. Putting a title on a resume as if it is a role is lying. There is no place on a resume for titles. That's not a thing.
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title".
Yes, places like McDonald's hiring for minimum wage work and having you fill out a form. Filling out forms, you fill out what you are told to fill out. That doesn't relate to a resume, though.
No, places that offer over 6 figures...
What place paying decently makes you fill out a high school job application? I've literally not had this come up, ever, in any job over $9/hr. And even then, I'm not sure. Maybe over $6/hr.
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@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
You put your Employer and your title there. Then you can list your role if you want, and responsibilities.
No, resumes get rules, not titles. Putting a title on a resume as if it is a role is lying. There is no place on a resume for titles. That's not a thing.
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title".
Yes, places like McDonald's hiring for minimum wage work and having you fill out a form. Filling out forms, you fill out what you are told to fill out. That doesn't relate to a resume, though.
No, places that offer over 6 figures...
What place paying decently makes you fill out a high school job application? I've literally not had this come up, ever, in any job over $9/hr. And even then, I'm not sure. Maybe over $6/hr.
What jobs are you applying for lately that are less than $9/hr to know this? Perhaps when you were early teens, but this isn't the case. I'm getting this from numerous CURRENT experiences.
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@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller said in Resume Critique:
@obsolesce said in Resume Critique:
You put your Employer and your title there. Then you can list your role if you want, and responsibilities.
No, resumes get rules, not titles. Putting a title on a resume as if it is a role is lying. There is no place on a resume for titles. That's not a thing.
The problem here, is that many companies still use their own system, and specifically ask for "Employer" and "Title".
Yes, places like McDonald's hiring for minimum wage work and having you fill out a form. Filling out forms, you fill out what you are told to fill out. That doesn't relate to a resume, though.
No, places that offer over 6 figures...
What place paying decently makes you fill out a high school job application? I've literally not had this come up, ever, in any job over $9/hr. And even then, I'm not sure. Maybe over $6/hr.
What jobs are you applying for lately that are less than $9/hr to know this? Perhaps when you were early teens, but this isn't the case. I'm getting this from numerous CURRENT experiences.
I'm not, I've not seen this in person since the mid-1990s. Nothing I've applied for since then, from entry level IT on up, has ever asked me to fill out a high school job app like I was a minimum wage cashier.
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And I've worked well over 40 IT jobs in my career. It's not like I've stuck to one place or industry. I've been all over.
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@scottalanmiller so, how would you change the title here to roles?
I know I still have other edits to make.
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@aaronstuder said in Resume Critique:
@scottalanmiller so, how would you change the title here to roles?
To some degree, you kind of have to ponder on your role at each one for a bit and think about what it really was. But using just the bullets and some guessing...
From bottom up...
- Computer Tech is likely just fine as is.
- Field Tech: very general, likely just fine unless you weren't actually in the field.
- IC: neither a title nor a role, but honest so it's okay. But does that matter? This I'd change based on relevance, not honesty. Sounds like another field tech, to me.
- IT Support Specialist: this "title" means nothing in particular beyond "IT" and "tech". So no honesty issues, just very vague. But vague is fine. Consider something like Desktop Support, Desktop Tech, LAN Admin, etc.
- Network Eng: Neither network nor engineering. So the title is nothing like the role. Desktop Tech, Helpdesk Tech, Tech Specialist, etc.
- IT / Network Admin: IT Admin is generic and fine. Network Admin implies you managed things like BGP4 rules, build software defined LANs, and so forth. Doesn't match the role. IT Admin is fine. Drop the network bit.
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@scottalanmiller Thanks
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