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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @murpheous
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      @murpheous said in NAS for file server backup:

      @pete-s NAS is netgear readynas or synology. There are others as well.

      No. . .

      NAS is literally any network attached storage device. It could be a desktop with FreeNAS installed on it, or a Synology or a Dell R710 or any other number of devices.

      The question that matters for this topic; does a NAS fit the business needs appropriately.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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        @krisleslie said in NAS for file server backup:

        @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

        y desktops support hot swap drives, few have reasonable RAID options, etc. Desktops are generally not very good for this, and often consumer too much power.

        True, but I'd be in business now lol and would be able to switch to a proper server. I mean you know how I feel, if you can afford a NAS you might as well buy a used server. My champion is the Dell PowerEdge R710 which is cheaper up front cost and better than any nas you could name lol!

        Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ. Pays for itself over time in reduced power consumption and reduced heat generation. Plus it saves hours of my time. So it's profitable pretty much instantly in ROI terms vs. a desktop.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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          @krisleslie said in NAS for file server backup:

          My champion is the Dell PowerEdge R710 which is cheaper up front cost and better than any nas you could name lol!

          No, that has high drive cost, high power cost, high set up cost. Better than a desktop, but doesn't compete with many NAS.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @1337
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            @pete-s said in NAS for file server backup:

            With "NAS" are we talking about:

            • the concept "Network Attached Storage"
            • a box from some manufacturer that they say is a NAS?

            A file server is a NAS y'know.

            No, NAS is a file server, a file server is not a NAS. A NAS is a specific type of file server.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @dustinb3403 said in NAS for file server backup:

              @murpheous said in NAS for file server backup:

              @pete-s NAS is netgear readynas or synology. There are others as well.

              No. . .

              NAS is literally any network attached storage device. It could be a desktop with FreeNAS installed on it, or a Synology or a Dell R710 or any other number of devices.

              That's incorrect. NAS is a file server that is sold as an appliance. Building it in some other way cannot be a NAS. NAS means something specific. File server is the general term. And still only applies to devices serving network file protocols.

              A SAN is neither a NAS nor a file server, for example, but is network attached, and storage.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                last edited by FATeknollogee

                @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ. Pays for itself over time in reduced power consumption and reduced heat generation. Plus it saves hours of my time. So it's profitable pretty much instantly in ROI terms vs. a desktop.

                What do you have?
                What's it running? I know it ain't running FreeNAS!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                  Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ. Pays for itself over time in reduced power consumption and reduced heat generation. Plus it saves hours of my time. So it's profitable pretty much instantly in ROI terms vs. a desktop.

                  What do you have?
                  What's it running? I know it ain't running FreeNAS!

                  ReadyNAS and Synology both when I want a "real" NAS rather than a file server that I've built myself.

                  When building a file server, I typically use Fedora.

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by WrCombs

                    When building a file server, I typically use Fedora.

                    edit
                    @scottalanmiller I'm Curious, Why Fedora? ( i have no other reason than to be curious, Cause i have no idea what it take to build a File server)

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                      Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ.

                      What model is this ?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                        @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                        @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                        Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ.

                        What model is this ?

                        Whatever their two bay starter model is. Been a while since I bought one, the two that I have just keep running.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                          @wrcombs said in NAS for file server backup:

                          When building a file server, I typically use Fedora.

                          edit
                          @scottalanmiller I'm Curious, Why Fedora? ( i have no other reason than to be curious, Cause i have no idea what it take to build a File server)

                          Simple Rule: Because there is no compelling reason to choose an alternative, so stick with your standard.

                          Complex Reason: Because Fedora is enterprise grade, strongly tuned for storage needs, well supported, kept very much up to date and runs modern code. It avoids licensing costs, bad GUIs, outdated tech and similar pitfalls common to most alternatives.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                            @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                            @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                            Not really, you can get a decent NAS for $250 at a minimum. I have one right here. Works like a champ.

                            What model is this ?

                            Whatever their two bay starter model is. Been a while since I bought one, the two that I have just keep running.

                            Quick Amazon result for reference.
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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @jaredbusch and that's Synology. Last time I priced it out (which was some time ago) the ReadyNAS were cheaper in this small end range.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                Found a better choice.
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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in NAS for file server backup:

                                  @jaredbusch and that's Synology. Last time I priced it out (which was some time ago) the ReadyNAS were cheaper in this small end range.

                                  ReadyNAS
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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
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                                    Personal choice, I prefer rackmount!

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                                      Personal choice, I prefer rackmount!

                                      Not going to pay the premium for that on a basic NAS without a reason.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee
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                                        Anyone tried http://rockstor.com/

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in NAS for file server backup:

                                          @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                                          Personal choice, I prefer rackmount!

                                          Not going to pay the premium for that on a basic NAS without a reason.

                                          I hear ya but all my gear is in a rack!

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @fateknollogee said in NAS for file server backup:

                                            Anyone tried http://rockstor.com/

                                            SF? Really? What is this 2001? No thanks.
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