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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Yea nVMe drives are overkill for something that doesn't need the performance.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        HW is simple:

        • 2x SSD for o/s
        • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

        Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

        Why would you assume a physical install ?
        I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

        Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

        Even still, splitting the arrays for this seems a bit ridiculous. An SSD raid 1 for the hypervisor. . . why?

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

          @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

          @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

          @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

          HW is simple:

          • 2x SSD for o/s
          • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

          Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

          Why would you assume a physical install ?
          I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

          Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

          Understood. Next time, will be more specific

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            HW is simple:

            • 2x SSD for o/s
            • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

            Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

            Why would you assume a physical install ?
            I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

            Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

            Even still, splitting the arrays for this seems a bit ridiculous. An SSD raid 1 for the hypervisor. . . why?

            Why not?
            Personal preference!

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              HW is simple:

              • 2x SSD for o/s
              • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

              Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

              Why would you assume a physical install ?
              I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

              Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

              Even still, splitting the arrays for this seems a bit ridiculous. An SSD raid 1 for the hypervisor. . . why?

              Why not?
              Personal preference!

              Personal preference doesn't make sense here, I get using a RAID1 for the hypervisor if you're extra concerned about a disk failing.

              But using SSDs here isn't a value add, more costly per GB.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                Personal preference doesn't make sense here, I get using a RAID1 for the hypervisor if you're extra concerned about a disk failing.

                But using SSDs here isn't a value add, more costly per GB.

                I'm comfortable with the "value add, more costly per GB", I like the extra reliability.
                For you, you don't see the value add.
                Like I said, it's a personal preference!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                  Like I said, it's a personal preference!

                  We've discussed this before. IT = no personal preference. That's never a thing in IT. To be an IT decision, it must have business value. Technology decisions without business context are consumer decisions. The role of IT is to use technology in the context of business.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    HW is simple:

                    • 2x SSD for o/s
                    • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                    Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

                    Why would you assume a physical install ?
                    I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

                    Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

                    Even still, splitting the arrays for this seems a bit ridiculous. An SSD raid 1 for the hypervisor. . . why?

                    Why not?
                    Personal preference!

                    Why not? Because it's a bad idea.

                    The best explanation ever is because the reason is "personal preference." Personal preference is "IT code" for "I know it's a bad idea, and I know I can't state a reason, but I'm unwilling to use logic in this instance." You see this on sites like SW every day. Loads of "I refuse to do what seems right" because "I don't feel like it" and people use terms like "more than one right answer" or "personal preference" to excuse not having reasons for their actions.

                    Try telling the CEO that money was spent without any stated reason because "you felt like spending the money" and no other reason. See if he agrees that "personal preference" is an acceptable business spending criteria.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      @scottalanmiller wouldn't "sunk cost" also fall into the same category here?

                      "I'm certified in Cisco, so we'll only use Cisco"

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                        @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                        @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                        HW is simple:

                        • 2x SSD for o/s
                        • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                        Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

                        Why would you assume a physical install ?
                        I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

                        Because you stated a dedicated array for the OS, not for the hypervisor. I'm only going by what you wrote. If you wanted dedicated for the OS, you'd need it whether you had a hypervisor or not.

                        Understood. Next time, will be more specific

                        Since that's a lot of money to spend just for a hypervisor that isn't used, it seems much more rational to use it for an OS than a hypervisor. It's not that there is truly zero value to a dedicated HV array, but it is nearly zero. SSDs, even cheap consumer ones, aren't free. But the value is so low, they'd basically have to be.

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