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      thanksajdotcom
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      @technobabble After drilling into that report, it looks like the biggest culprit is my FeedWeb, which is the biggest performance hitter of anything. I LOVE the things I can do with FeedWeb, and I'm not sure what to substitute it with. Any ideas on that front? Anything you know off?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Where is feedweb hooking you into?

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          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Where is feedweb hooking you into?

          What do you mean? It seems to be slow loading some CSS and JavaScript.

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            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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            @thanksaj said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Where is feedweb hooking you into?

            What do you mean? It seems to be slow loading some CSS and JavaScript.

            I mean where is that thread exposing you.... what publicity or exposure benefit is it bringing?

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              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @thanksaj said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Where is feedweb hooking you into?

              What do you mean? It seems to be slow loading some CSS and JavaScript.

              I mean where is that thread exposing you.... what publicity or exposure benefit is it bringing?

              FeedWeb does have a site where my posts are promoted, but I doubt more than one or two people see it. The big thing they provide is that little grading tool at the bottom of each post. It asks people 2-3 yes/no questions and ask them to rate the article on a scale of 1-5. No one ever leaves comments so this is a way of me gathering feedback, and I've loved it so far! However, it's killing my page load times.

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                Carnival Boy
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                I hate the modern concept of rating everything. Everything has to have a score these days. I get some help from an IT company and then they're asking 'how would you rate your call on a scale of 1-5'. Uuuurgh. Can you imagine Michelangelo asking people if they'd mind rating the Sistine Chapel so he could get useful feedback.

                Sorry, rant over.

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                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  I hate the modern concept of rating everything. Everything has to have a score these days. I get some help from an IT company and then they're asking 'how would you rate your call on a scale of 1-5'. Uuuurgh. Can you imagine Michelangelo asking people if they'd mind rating the Sistine Chapel so he could get useful feedback.

                  Sorry, rant over.

                  I agree, scores are bad. They are misleading. They are not 100% bad, but mostly bad. Look at review sites, the scores tell you almost nothing. It's just confusing. If you have scoring done by audited professionals, you can get good results. If you have anonymous scoring, you get garbage. And bad metrics are worse than no metrics.

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                    technobabble
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                    @thanksaj, sometimes you can place the js in the footer for later loading times.

                    I have not heard of the plugin and I just spent 30 minutes checking out. I am intrigued by it but at this time would not encourage a client to use it. There are too many "way cool plugin" type of reviews (everyone is drinking the Koolaid). Another metric, I haven't heard it mentioned in Moz or any of the LinkedIn WordPress groups I belong to.

                    I will be keeping my eye on this plugin and their webpage which has all the posts of everyone who uses the plugin.

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                      thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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                      @technobabble said:

                      @thanksaj, sometimes you can place the js in the footer for later loading times.

                      I have not heard of the plugin and I just spent 30 minutes checking out. I am intrigued by it but at this time would not encourage a client to use it. There are too many "way cool plugin" type of reviews (everyone is drinking the Koolaid). Another metric, I haven't heard it mentioned in Moz or any of the LinkedIn WordPress groups I belong to.

                      I will be keeping my eye on this plugin and their webpage which has all the posts of everyone who uses the plugin.

                      Every item with significant load times, so 750ms or more, is pretty much something related to FeedWeb.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        I would remove that and just do without. Doesn't sound like it's adding big value.

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                          technobabble @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksaj said:

                          @technobabble said:

                          @thanksaj, sometimes you can place the js in the footer for later loading times.

                          I have not heard of the plugin and I just spent 30 minutes checking out. I am intrigued by it but at this time would not encourage a client to use it. There are too many "way cool plugin" type of reviews (everyone is drinking the Koolaid). Another metric, I haven't heard it mentioned in Moz or any of the LinkedIn WordPress groups I belong to.

                          I will be keeping my eye on this plugin and their webpage which has all the posts of everyone who uses the plugin.

                          Every item with significant load times, so 750ms or more, is pretty much something related to FeedWeb.

                          Agreed and sometimes you have to trim the fat elsewhere and deal with the odd plugin IF it provides offsite SEO (good links). I will have to test on a new website using our hosting to see if I get the same performance hit.

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                            thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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                            @technobabble said:

                            @thanksaj said:

                            @technobabble said:

                            @thanksaj, sometimes you can place the js in the footer for later loading times.

                            I have not heard of the plugin and I just spent 30 minutes checking out. I am intrigued by it but at this time would not encourage a client to use it. There are too many "way cool plugin" type of reviews (everyone is drinking the Koolaid). Another metric, I haven't heard it mentioned in Moz or any of the LinkedIn WordPress groups I belong to.

                            I will be keeping my eye on this plugin and their webpage which has all the posts of everyone who uses the plugin.

                            Every item with significant load times, so 750ms or more, is pretty much something related to FeedWeb.

                            Agreed and sometimes you have to trim the fat elsewhere and deal with the odd plugin IF it provides offsite SEO (good links). I will have to test on a new website using our hosting to see if I get the same performance hit.

                            It's not that it provides SEO for me. It allows me to see what people think of each article and get trends of if people agreed with me on any given article or disagreed, if they want to hear more about a given topic, etc.

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                              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I would remove that and just do without. Doesn't sound like it's adding big value.

                              It gives me a lot of value. Otherwise, the articles are up but I don't get any feedback on them.

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                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksaj said:

                                It gives me a lot of value. Otherwise, the articles are up but I don't get any feedback on them.

                                I understand but the value to you is less important than the value to readers.

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                                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @thanksaj said:

                                  It gives me a lot of value. Otherwise, the articles are up but I don't get any feedback on them.

                                  I understand but the value to you isn't less important than the value to readers.

                                  I use the feedback I receive to figure out ideas for subsequent articles.

                                  Also, did you mean to use "is" instead of "isn't"?

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                                    Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    And bad metrics are worse than no metrics.

                                    Indeed. It's also feedback from self-selected people. You only get feedback from the kind of people who like to tick a box to rate a blog post they've just read (idiots, basically!). That means your blog could end up being the kind of blog that appeals to the kind of people who like to tick a box to rate a blog post. Basically, you end up with a blog for idiots. That's fine if that's your intention.

                                    It's a similar problem to the infamous Literary Digest poll

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                                      Carnival Boy
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                                      I'm being slightly tongue in cheek calling them idiots.

                                      I do think you should just blog about whatever you want to blog about, and not try and second guess your readers in order to become popular. If people like it, they like it, if they don't, they don't. You seem to be embarking on blogging as if it's a career, and I'm not sure any good can come from that.

                                      You're young though, and I'm probably the wrong generation to understand all this stuff.

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                                        thanksajdotcom @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        I'm being slightly tongue in cheek calling them idiots.

                                        I do think you should just blog about whatever you want to blog about, and not try and second guess your readers in order to become popular. If people like it, they like it, if they don't, they don't. You seem to be embarking on blogging as if it's a career, and I'm not sure any good can come from that.

                                        You're young though, and I'm probably the wrong generation to understand all this stuff.

                                        I'll never be Trevor Pott who lives and dies by his blogging. But...I would like to do it on the side. I think that could be a lot of fun.

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                                          technobabble @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksaj ok...well you didn't need that plugin to do that. WP comes with the ability for people to comment and if you wanted ratings you could add using custom fields without the overhead of a plugin and its links.

                                          Like this article from Smashing Magazine.

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                                            thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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                                            @technobabble said:

                                            @thanksaj ok...well you didn't need that plugin to do that. WP comes with the ability for people to comment and if you wanted ratings you could add using custom fields without the overhead of a plugin and its links.

                                            Like this article from Smashing Magazine.

                                            The problem is most people read the articles off the homepage, which means if they want to comment, they have to go to the actual post's page, which most won't/don't.

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