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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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      @dustinb3403 said in KVM Backing and Support:

      My biggest questions with KVM still revolve around backup solutions for it.

      Don't expect a solution from Veeam until KVM (RHEL/CentOS/Fedora etc) has CBT in the o/s.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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        @fateknollogee said in KVM Backing and Support:

        @dustinb3403 said in KVM Backing and Support:

        My biggest questions with KVM still revolve around backup solutions for it.

        Don't expect a solution from Veeam until KVM (RHEL/CentOS/Fedora etc) has CBT in the o/s.

        But it does.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

          @fateknollogee said in KVM Backing and Support:

          @dustinb3403 said in KVM Backing and Support:

          My biggest questions with KVM still revolve around backup solutions for it.

          Don't expect a solution from Veeam until KVM (RHEL/CentOS/Fedora etc) has CBT in the o/s.

          But it does.

          Is it available from the kernel?

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

            @fateknollogee said in KVM Backing and Support:

            @dustinb3403 said in KVM Backing and Support:

            My biggest questions with KVM still revolve around backup solutions for it.

            Don't expect a solution from Veeam until KVM (RHEL/CentOS/Fedora etc) has CBT in the o/s.

            But it does.

            Where?

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
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              I’m curious if BTRFS and ZFS can do CBT?

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
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                Anyone see this yet?
                https://github.com/datto/dattobd

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                  Francesco Provino @matteo nunziati
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                  @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                  @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

                  @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                  @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

                  @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                  1. Why do you worry about these things with agent based and not with agentless, even though they are equal and both affected by them just the same?

                  Because I install altaro have a single admin interface an can backup delta vm in a few minutes.

                  Sure, but Veeam agentless will do that, too. There are good options in both directions.

                  Sure. My point was: I'm not aware of a win/linux solution agent based with central management which costs less then agentless. Therefore when I deployed kvm it was with some mix and match stuff got from github and glued into some.bash script. Ok for me but not really nice to offload to others. My ignorance about Good non diy backup solutions is the only reason I do not deploy kvm again.

                  Grr... Damn phone. Lot of typos...

                  I’m in the same boat. I’m investigating Bacula, IBM Spectrum, and Commvault… but it seems that Veeam still has an edge.

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                    stacksofplates @Francesco Provino
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                    @francesco-provino said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    @scottalanmiller said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                    1. Why do you worry about these things with agent based and not with agentless, even though they are equal and both affected by them just the same?

                    Because I install altaro have a single admin interface an can backup delta vm in a few minutes.

                    Sure, but Veeam agentless will do that, too. There are good options in both directions.

                    Sure. My point was: I'm not aware of a win/linux solution agent based with central management which costs less then agentless. Therefore when I deployed kvm it was with some mix and match stuff got from github and glued into some.bash script. Ok for me but not really nice to offload to others. My ignorance about Good non diy backup solutions is the only reason I do not deploy kvm again.

                    Grr... Damn phone. Lot of typos...

                    I’m in the same boat. I’m investigating Bacula, IBM Spectrum, and Commvault… but it seems that Veeam still has an edge.

                    Yeah sadly Borg isn't cross platform but it's decent for a central Linux backup repo.

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in KVM Backing and Support:

                      I’m curious if BTRFS and ZFS can do CBT?

                      They do for snapshotting. ZFS is reference on write. I think btrfs is the same. Then you need to compress and export snapshots.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @matteo nunziati
                        last edited by Obsolesce

                        @matteo-nunziati said in KVM Backing and Support:

                        @black3dynamite said in KVM Backing and Support:

                        I’m curious if BTRFS and ZFS can do CBT?

                        They do for snapshotting. ZFS is reference on write. I think btrfs is the same. Then you need to compress and export snapshots.

                        Yeah I think that's what this addresses...

                        @obsolesce said in KVM Backing and Support:

                        Anyone see this yet?
                        https://github.com/datto/dattobd

                        I really want to test it out but haven't had a chance to yet.

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