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    Meraki and Ubiquiti Price Comparison

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    • coliverC
      coliver @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      It's only recently-ish that a lot of the solid competition has sprung up. They were good for a while.

      They do have a really nice product and the interface made it very simple to troubleshoot issues and find devices that were doing inappropriate things on our WLAN. Although now that I've played with their security appliances there are some key reporting and troubleshooting features that I really wish they would add.

      I really want to test out one of the EdgeRouters to see how it works. I'm debating picking one up for the house.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Hard to go wrong using one for home. So nice and so cheap.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          I really want to test out one of the EdgeRouters to see how it works. I'm debating picking one up for the house.

          There's really not much to it, once you get it up and running it just sits there - You'll have to use another tool for anything beyond the basic charts from what I've seen.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            They are an odd niche. Before players like Ubiquiti came along they made sense in very specific circumstances. But now, it's very hard to figure out when or where to deploy them. And they only really get their value when you go whole hog and have Meraki switches, firewalls and access points. The moment you start using anyone else, their value falls apart. But when you do all of that, that price is insane.

            I can do a competitive solution to a full Meraki office for ~$800 total. It will last most of a decade. Meraki is a minimum of $4K just for one of the three pieces!

            At what point would it be worth installing a Meraki? 100 users? 200 users? The costs never seem to really justify it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @coliver said:

              I really want to test out one of the EdgeRouters to see how it works. I'm debating picking one up for the house.

              There's really not much to it, once you get it up and running it just sits there - You'll have to use another tool for anything beyond the basic charts from what I've seen.

              One would hope so. Routers are not something you want to have to touch very often.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                At what point would it be worth installing a Meraki? 100 users? 200 users? The costs never seem to really justify it.

                It's only when you really need their special features, probably have to handle many medium sized offsites without local IT staff and have exuberant amounts of funds but lack any networking skills in house. It is not a matter of scale. It is a matter of special circumstance.

                But for the cost of a little bit of Meraki gear, you can retain serious networking skills to handle things for you in a much better way.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  Scott - what do you think of firewall appliances that include web filtering, etc?

                  I know you don't like sonicwall, but what about others?

                  Clearly EdgeMax Lite doesn't offer any of these features.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    It does not. Generally what you are referring to are UTMs rather than firewalls. It's an option and it can make sense. It is when you need a true UTM that you move past the Ubiquiti market or you get a separate web filter. Either is fine. Separates make a lot of sense, you can control when you purchase far more easily that way.

                    If you are buying a real UTM, Palo Alto is the leaser, no question. And Sophos is the SMB player. I'd look almost exclusively at those two. Spend any less and you are not getting all that much for your money and going to just a firewall makes sense.

                    Often I would do separates, though. Untangle or just Squid for web filtering is pretty good. And free.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      You'll have to use another tool for anything beyond the basic charts from what I've seen.

                      If anyone has any recommendations for this, I really need a good solution for this.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        There's really not much to it, once you get it up and running it just sits there - You'll have to use another tool for anything beyond the basic charts from what I've seen.

                        Should be able to send SNMP to something to make better charts. We should play with Solarwinds' product for that. At least as a starting point. Probably lots of good options.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          MRTG might be a good starting point.

                          http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/doc/mrtg.en.html

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            The Solarwinds Real Time Bandwidth Monitor is what I was thinking of.

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