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    • siringoS
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      Crazy weekend.
      Updated all the firmwares on the T610, installed Fedora, no problem. Need a GUI, so got that installed, no problem.
      Post GUI install mouse decided it didn't want to work, move mouse wait .. wait .. wait, cursor moves. Unusable.
      Replace mouse, no change. Cold boot no change. Rage building.
      Dig up old 16GB 8 core i7 laptop I forgot about that runs W10.
      Me thinks I'll use that instead & use Hyper-V. It's running 1511.
      Update, update, update, update.
      Then I find out my crappy modem just will not port forward.
      Dig out old Billion modem, stuff around with that.
      Arrgh! Can't find DSL log in password.
      This story will continue ...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @siringo
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        @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

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        • siringoS
          siringo @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

          @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

          Trying to get access to the VMs on the host machine based at my house from the Interweb. So one of my current VPS windows servers can talk to one of the windows VMs on my home based host.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @siringo
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            @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

            @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

            Trying to get access to the VMs on the host machine based at my house from the Interweb. So one of my current VPS windows servers can talk to one of the windows VMs on my home based host.

            ZeroTier, then. If you want to act like it is a LAN, that's your best bet.

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            • siringoS
              siringo @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

              @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

              @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

              Trying to get access to the VMs on the host machine based at my house from the Interweb. So one of my current VPS windows servers can talk to one of the windows VMs on my home based host.

              ZeroTier, then. If you want to act like it is a LAN, that's your best bet.

              Thanks Scott, I'll check it out & see what I can work out.

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              • siringoS
                siringo @siringo
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                @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

                Trying to get access to the VMs on the host machine based at my house from the Interweb. So one of my current VPS windows servers can talk to one of the windows VMs on my home based host.

                ZeroTier, then. If you want to act like it is a LAN, that's your best bet.

                Thanks Scott, I'll check it out & see what I can work out.

                This ZeroTier is awesome, I've managed to create a network and put 2 nodes on it. Just trying to work out how to communicate from 1 to the other. This is going to be great fun.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @siringo
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                  @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                  @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                  @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                  @siringo consider skipping port forwarding for a lab with something like ZeroTier. Depends on your goals. What are you trying to do what would make you want to port forward?

                  Trying to get access to the VMs on the host machine based at my house from the Interweb. So one of my current VPS windows servers can talk to one of the windows VMs on my home based host.

                  ZeroTier, then. If you want to act like it is a LAN, that's your best bet.

                  Thanks Scott, I'll check it out & see what I can work out.

                  This ZeroTier is awesome, I've managed to create a network and put 2 nodes on it. Just trying to work out how to communicate from 1 to the other. This is going to be great fun.

                  It's an amazing product, AND the founder is semi-active here on ML.

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                  • siringoS
                    siringo
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                    Well I've managed to get my laptop & one of my 2016 VPSs to both have ZeroTier assigned IPs, but they can't ping each other yet, not sure why?? I'll look into it later tonight/tomorrow.

                    Is there a ZT area within ML I could post ZL related questions to?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @siringo
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                      @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                      Well I've managed to get my laptop & one of my 2016 VPSs to both have ZeroTier assigned IPs, but they can't ping each other yet, not sure why?? I'll look into it later tonight/tomorrow.

                      Is there a ZT area within ML I could post ZL related questions to?

                      No, ZT is not a sponsor. Just post in the usual area.

                      Are you sure that pings are not blocked?

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                      • siringoS
                        siringo @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                        @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                        Well I've managed to get my laptop & one of my 2016 VPSs to both have ZeroTier assigned IPs, but they can't ping each other yet, not sure why?? I'll look into it later tonight/tomorrow.

                        Is there a ZT area within ML I could post ZL related questions to?

                        No, ZT is not a sponsor. Just post in the usual area.

                        Are you sure that pings are not blocked?

                        Ar yes, they are. I'll look at that tonight. Time to head home.
                        Thanks Scott, if ZT can do what I'm hoping it can, i'm going to be very excited.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @siringo
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                          @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                          @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                          Well I've managed to get my laptop & one of my 2016 VPSs to both have ZeroTier assigned IPs, but they can't ping each other yet, not sure why?? I'll look into it later tonight/tomorrow.

                          Is there a ZT area within ML I could post ZL related questions to?

                          No, ZT is not a sponsor. Just post in the usual area.

                          Are you sure that pings are not blocked?

                          Ar yes, they are. I'll look at that tonight. Time to head home.
                          Thanks Scott, if ZT can do what I'm hoping it can, i'm going to be very excited.

                          ZT is a very powerful tool. Software Defined Networking allows for a lot of possibilities.

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                          • siringoS
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                            Well I've managed to hook 3 hosts together via ZeroTier, what a great product/service, I'll be looking into that a bit further.
                            I nuked my W10 laptop as that was an upgrade from W8.1 to 10 and it was being held together by wire and sticky tape. I've installed Fedora WS on it.
                            I've just been racing into this and most likely not reading as much as I should, but so far so good.
                            So i've installed a 2016 server VM on the Fedora host, all went well except I can't use the mouse or kbd in the VM. In a Windows world I'd be fine, but with this being an OS I'm not familiar with, this may take a little hunting to work out.

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                            • ObsolesceO
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                              Visit spice space and install the guest tools in your VM.

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                                siringo @Obsolesce
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                                @obsolesce said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                Visit spice space and install the guest tools in your VM.

                                Thanks for the suggestion, but that's outside my area of competance ATM.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @siringo
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                                  @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                  @obsolesce said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                  Visit spice space and install the guest tools in your VM.

                                  Thanks for the suggestion, but that's outside my area of competance ATM.

                                  https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

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                                    siringo @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                    @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                    @obsolesce said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                    Visit spice space and install the guest tools in your VM.

                                    Thanks for the suggestion, but that's outside my area of competance ATM.

                                    https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                    I had another look at this last night.
                                    I've installed, sorry if this sounds a little confused, I'm not a Linux user, KVM/QEMU onto my Fedora laptop and managed to install a copy of Server 2016 as a VM. Only problem is I cannot get the mouse & keyboard to switch from physical to virtual hosts, it's a real mess, very very frustrating, so frustrating in fact I nuked Fedora & installed Ubuntu. But that's as far as I got last night.
                                    I'm going to try my luck with Virtualbox on Ubuntu.

                                    What is it with Fedora anyway? Seems like a darn fiddly thing to use.

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @siringo
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                                      @siringo Actually Fedora has been the most solid Linux offering for me to use. I suppose you have had some bad luck though. If I remember some laptop hardware runs better with Linux than others. Not sure if this is the issue but may be a place to start.

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                                      • siringoS
                                        siringo @jmoore
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                                        @jmoore said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                        @siringo Actually Fedora has been the most solid Linux offering for me to use. I suppose you have had some bad luck though. If I remember some laptop hardware runs better with Linux than others. Not sure if this is the issue but may be a place to start.

                                        There could be something in what you say. Ubuntu has installed on this laptop really well, so far everything has worked out of the box. Wifi, trackpad, sound. Maybe I will have more luck with this OS?

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                                        • ObsolesceO
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                                          I haven't seen any Fedora related issues in this thread. What I see the problem is the lack of drivers in the Windows VM.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
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                                            @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                            @siringo said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                            @obsolesce said in Windows VMs on Linux VPS. Possible?:

                                            Visit spice space and install the guest tools in your VM.

                                            Thanks for the suggestion, but that's outside my area of competance ATM.

                                            https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                            I had another look at this last night.
                                            I've installed, sorry if this sounds a little confused, I'm not a Linux user, KVM/QEMU onto my Fedora laptop and managed to install a copy of Server 2016 as a VM. Only problem is I cannot get the mouse & keyboard to switch from physical to virtual hosts, it's a real mess, very very frustrating, so frustrating in fact I nuked Fedora & installed Ubuntu. But that's as far as I got last night.
                                            I'm going to try my luck with Virtualbox on Ubuntu.

                                            What is it with Fedora anyway? Seems like a darn fiddly thing to use.

                                            Did you install the spice driver into the windows instance? If not, of course nothing works.

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