Non-IT News Thread
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Well no, we also want bad cops to stop being bad, obviously. What I meant in "what we want from the cops" is for the associations that cops are under whether state or local, to act ethically and hold cops accountable for crimes and not use their associations to cover up, commit, or encourage criminal behaviour.
Is it the cops job to arrest a co-worker who has done something when there is a process in place already to determine if the actions of the cop were illegal or not?
Cops are granted a bit more immunity to the law because, they often have to break the law (speeding as an example) in order to prevent a worse crime (murder).
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Well no, we also want bad cops to stop being bad, obviously. What I meant in "what we want from the cops" is for the associations that cops are under whether state or local, to act ethically and hold cops accountable for crimes and not use their associations to cover up, commit, or encourage criminal behaviour.
Is it the cops job to arrest a co-worker who has done something when there is a process in place already to determine if the actions of the cop were illegal or not?
Cops are granted a bit more immunity to the law because, they often have to break the law (speeding as an example) in order to prevent a worse crime (murder).
How very consequentist of you.
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@coliver I'm not sure if you're attacking me or praising me. . . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Well no, we also want bad cops to stop being bad, obviously. What I meant in "what we want from the cops" is for the associations that cops are under whether state or local, to act ethically and hold cops accountable for crimes and not use their associations to cover up, commit, or encourage criminal behaviour.
Is it the cops job to arrest a co-worker who has done something when there is a process in place already to determine if the actions of the cop were illegal or not?
If it isn't, what is the job of a cop?
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver I'm not sure if you're attacking me or praising me. . . .
It's a fine line.
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
Cops are granted a bit more immunity to the law because, they often have to break the law (speeding as an example) in order to prevent a worse crime (murder).
It's not breaking the law, though. Cops are allowed to speed when it is needed. That's part of the law, not breaking it. Having specific laws to them is needed, being allowed to break the laws is not.
A cop that breaks the law is a bit of an antithesis - how can those whose sole job is to uphold the law fundamentally not believe or obey it? Why even have law if the process of law is not covered by the law?
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
how can those whose sole job is to uphold the law fundamentally not believe or obey it?
That is where you are wrong, cops don't uphold the law. Their job is to arrest people that they believe has broken some law. It is the courts job to uphold the law.
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
how can those whose sole job is to uphold the law fundamentally not believe or obey it?
That is where you are wrong, cops don't uphold the law. Their job is to arrest people that they believe has broken some law. It is the courts job to uphold the law.
Right, so if another cop breaks the law, the other cops should arrest them.
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This place is better than a philosophy class.
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64 Thread POWER 9 vs 96 Core ARM Workstations RISC monsters face off.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
This place is better than a philosophy class.
I agree.
This is how adulting should be. Those things that they try to make you do in college in a class one time, it's how we live around here.
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Regarding the video: The man was advancing on the police officer and we can't see anything other than that. We don't know if the officer had his gun drawn already or not. Just too many unknowns in this case. I'd hope there are some traffic cams or other footage brought to light during the investigation into it. If a police officer orders you to do something and you act aggressively towards the officer, I think the officer is well within his right to shoot you.
I say this in full knowledge that one day, I could be shot due to my implant batteries dying at the wrong time. My Pops actually had somebody call the police on him because they thought he was loading a pistol in his car outside a Walmart. He was putting fresh batteries in his own implant.
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I've been more philosophically challenged and changed during my 3 years on here than my entire time at my last job (10 years).
