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    Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      I was actually having a brief conversation about this with a co-worker and his stance was "java is where it's at". . .

      Um yea. . . now let's start paying all of those royalties. . .

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Oracle's org chart for the past 20 years. . .

        https://i.imgur.com/H9S0HvY.png

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
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          @coliver said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

          "The fact that Android is free of charge does not make Google’s use of the Java API packages noncommercial," the Federal Circuit ruled. "Giving customers ‘for free something they would ordinarily have to buy’ can constitute commercial use."

          This is nonsense. So all open source is now a commercial venture...

          Almost no open source uses Java, thankfully.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

            @coliver said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

            "The fact that Android is free of charge does not make Google’s use of the Java API packages noncommercial," the Federal Circuit ruled. "Giving customers ‘for free something they would ordinarily have to buy’ can constitute commercial use."

            This is nonsense. So all open source is now a commercial venture...

            Almost no open source uses Java, thankfully.

            Any that do need to be completely rewritten as using Java at all opens the project devs and users up to litigation with Oracle.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              At this point, isn't Oracle just a patent troll? Doing anything it can to squeeze a bit of money out of things that haven't been improved upon in decades?

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              • momurdaM
                momurda
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                "You can use Java API as long as you dont make any money with it"

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

                  At this point, isn't Oracle just a patent troll? Doing anything it can to squeeze a bit of money out of things that haven't been improved upon in decades?

                  Have been for quite a while.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

                    "You can use Java API as long as you dont make any money with it"

                    Yeah, WTF.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

                      @coliver said in Google Loses Java Use Suit with Oracle; Java Might Be Something to Avoid:

                      "The fact that Android is free of charge does not make Google’s use of the Java API packages noncommercial," the Federal Circuit ruled. "Giving customers ‘for free something they would ordinarily have to buy’ can constitute commercial use."

                      This is nonsense. So all open source is now a commercial venture...

                      Almost no open source uses Java, thankfully.

                      Any that do need to be completely rewritten as using Java at all opens the project devs and users up to litigation with Oracle.

                      ANy that do, yes. But thankfully, that's basically zero. And those that do use it are almost all nearly dead or have nearly replaced it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Sadly, Zimbra is an exception.

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