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      Uber autonomous car kills pedestrian in Arizona.

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        US Courts Strike Down Obama Era Anti-Robocall Rule, but this might be a good one as smart phones were considered robodialers under all conditions, which is pretty silly.

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          Police claim that six coeds beating an eighteen year old Egytptian girl to death in Nottingham is "not hate related?" Apparently it's just friendly gang violence like normal?

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            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Police claim that six coeds beating an eighteen year old Egytptian girl to death in Nottingham is "not hate related?" Apparently it's just friendly gang violence like normal?

            Attaching the "hate" moniker to violence has been a bad idea from the word go. To imply that one motivation for deliberately killing someone is worse than another is an underlying reason why our justice system is messed up. There is a reason that Lady Justice is depicted as blindfolded. The law was intended to assign guilt based on the crime, not on the status of the harmed or harm-er. When we attach the "hate" flag to a crime we also get the opposite end of judgments like Brock Turner. Murder should be wrong and the punishment applied evenhandedly regardless.

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              @irj @scottalanmiller

              Murder is bad when not licensed. We get it. But “hate” crimes have been legally redefined to mean a specific type of motivation. You don’t have to like it, but it is the law.

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                Last male white rhino has died. There are two females left in the world, but that is it. The species is now extinct.

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                  Hashtag DeleteFacebook is now trending after news of FB selling 50 million users' data to Cambridge Analytics.

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                    BBC asks if there is any choice but to leave Facebook?

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                      British government summons Mark Zuckerberg to answer to MPs about providing user data to Cambridge Analytics.

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                        Austin hit by fifth bombing this week. This time a parcel at FedEx exploded.

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                          @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @irj @scottalanmiller

                          Murder is bad when not licensed. We get it. But “hate” crimes have been legally redefined to mean a specific type of motivation. You don’t have to like it, but it is the law.

                          BBC talks about girls joining gangs this morning.

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                            Tempe Police believe from preliminary investigation that the pedestrian was at fault for stepping from shadows in the median directly into traffic without warning or cause in the deadly crash involving an Uber autonomous vehicle on Sunday. However, it does look like police may not know what the speed limits are in the area, having been quoted as saying it was a 35 zone with the car slightly over the speed limit, but photo evidence showing the area marked as a 45 zone with the vehicle significantly under the speed limit. But the photo evidence is not entirely up to date, so may not reflect an extremely recent change in speed postings.

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                              Uber likely not at fault for death of pedestrian who crossed street.

                              Which the facts so far, as have been announced.

                              Pedestrian crossed road at night, with shopping cart
                              Pedestrian crossed road not at a crosswalk

                              Uber vehicle was traveling 38 MPH in supposed 35 zone
                              Uber had backup (human) driver

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                                Facebook security chief quits over recent problems.

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                                  I believe that Facebook is now in what we refer to in the industry as a shitstorm.

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                                    And even if Uber is not legally at fault, critics may ask whether the vehicle could have done more to anticipate the possibility that the woman might step in front of the Uber vehicle and take appropriate defensive measures—perhaps slowing down or changing lanes to give her a wider berth.

                                    Would a human driver been able to do this? She abruptly stepped into the path of traffic and got hit. Granted the "speeding" may be an issue but that could also be attributed to the flow of traffic.

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                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      And even if Uber is not legally at fault, critics may ask whether the vehicle could have done more to anticipate the possibility that the woman might step in front of the Uber vehicle and take appropriate defensive measures—perhaps slowing down or changing lanes to give her a wider berth.

                                      Would a human driver been able to do this? She abruptly stepped into the path of traffic and got hit. Granted the "speeding" may be an issue but that could also be attributed to the flow of traffic.

                                      There was a human driver. He didn't manage to make a difference.

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                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Granted the "speeding" may be an issue but that could also be attributed to the flow of traffic.

                                        Appears to have actually been 8 mph UNDER the speed limit. Police quotes a speed far slower than what photos show the actual speed to be. But possible it was just changed. Far more likely the police don't know the limit.

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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          And even if Uber is not legally at fault, critics may ask whether the vehicle could have done more to anticipate the possibility that the woman might step in front of the Uber vehicle and take appropriate defensive measures—perhaps slowing down or changing lanes to give her a wider berth.

                                          Would a human driver been able to do this? She abruptly stepped into the path of traffic and got hit. Granted the "speeding" may be an issue but that could also be attributed to the flow of traffic.

                                          There was a human driver. He didn't manage to make a difference.

                                          Human driver more like backup?

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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Granted the "speeding" may be an issue but that could also be attributed to the flow of traffic.

                                            Appears to have actually been 8 mph UNDER the speed limit. Police quotes a speed far slower than what photos show the actual speed to be. But possible it was just changed. Far more likely the police don't know the limit.

                                            That's fair. Either way, speeding or going slow, it sounds like the vehicle was following the flow of traffic.

                                            I'd be interested to know if the vehicle knew about the pedestrian prior to the impact.

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