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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford
      last edited by bbigford

      High Points:

      • Using Veeam.
      • Synology onsite NAS.
      • Synology offsite NAS is in a building about 200 feet away, with an air gap.
      • Owner of files is "User" << obfuscated.
      • "User" has read/write on the parent folder, and all subdirectories and files/objects.
      • Logged in as "User".
      • Trying to purge an older backup chain in offsite backups results in a permissions error.
      • Using rsync, user account is "User".

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Added tags.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Which of the two NAS are you looking at that you cannot delete?

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

            Which of the two NAS are you looking at that you cannot delete?

            Offsite

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford @scottalanmiller
                last edited by bbigford

                @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

                Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bbigford
                  last edited by

                  @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                  What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

                  Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

                  And RSYNC is syncing as that user, not as root?

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                    @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                    What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

                    Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

                    And RSYNC is syncing as that user, not as root?

                    Correct

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                    • bbigfordB
                      bbigford
                      last edited by bbigford

                      Deleted offsite backups shared directory and now seeding; will take 12 hours. Hope there is no environmental hazard during that time with onsite.

                      Not sure what I could have done better in this case.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Worth a shot anyway.

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                          Worth a shot anyway.

                          It's seeing in a healthy state after monitoring constantly. I just don't understand what I could have done better to remove a backup chain and just free up space. I initially tried to delete the link and just re-establish it with the same name; couldn't do that though since it looks for the same name and -if it exists- it creates a new folder.

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                          • NashBrydgesN
                            NashBrydges
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                            Could someone have logged in as administrator on the Offsite NAS and (accidentally) changed permissions on the "User" account?

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                            • NashBrydgesN
                              NashBrydges
                              last edited by

                              If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @NashBrydges
                                last edited by

                                @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                Using rsync is pretty good at preserving permissions unless one forget to include option -a.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @bbigford
                                  last edited by

                                  @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                  Worth a shot anyway.

                                  It's seeing in a healthy state after monitoring constantly. I just don't understand what I could have done better to remove a backup chain and just free up space. I initially tried to delete the link and just re-establish it with the same name; couldn't do that though since it looks for the same name and -if it exists- it creates a new folder.

                                  Do you have rsync set to delete files that have been removed from the source? --delete

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @NashBrydges
                                    last edited by

                                    @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                    Could someone have logged in as administrator on the Offsite NAS and (accidentally) changed permissions on the "User" account?

                                    No, I'm the only one who works with them at this time.

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford @NashBrydges
                                      last edited by

                                      @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                      If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                      Air gap as in if one building was lost, the other is fine. I should have been more clear. Not two separate networks using wireless point to point.

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford @NashBrydges
                                        last edited by

                                        @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                        If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                        I'll probably go that route for long term. I love rsync but I may keep it only for specific cases.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @black3dynamite
                                          last edited by

                                          @black3dynamite said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                          @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                          If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                          Using rsync is pretty good at preserving permissions unless one forget to include option -a.

                                          I used the GUI on this one.

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato
                                            last edited by

                                            As an aside question, do you have it that it recycles the storage after certain time with Synology to Synology backuP?

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