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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      You do NOT want any DNS from your ISP. Just ignore that. Use the DNS from AD. There is no value to having your ISP involved in your DNS in any way.

      Agreed. There is nothing to be gained and a lot that likely will break doing this.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        There is no value to having your ISP involved in your DNS in any way.

        Except as a valid forwarder in the DNS server config. Especially when you are not local to some of the bigger public DNS systems.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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          @ajstringham said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @ajstringham said:

          This is the whole purpose of forwarders in DNS. Your local DNS should always come first. If it's not found there, it gets sent to the forwarders, which is where you can put your ISP's provided DNS address in.

          She said DNS for her LAN, not public DNS.

          I assumed it was a misspeak. I can see no possible reason an ISP would provide you DNS info for your LAN. That makes no sense.

          I agree with AJ here - I'm sure the ISP was speaking in general terms, here is the upstream DNS you can use that we provide.

          FYI, if you're looking for fast DNS servers to use as upstream DNS sources (assuming your ISP allows it) try GRC's tool, DNS Benchmark. https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

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          • JoyJ
            Joy
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            Thank you for all of your replies. I will look at it tomorrow..

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              Except as a valid forwarder in the DNS server config. Especially when you are not local to some of the bigger public DNS systems.

              Pretty sure Google has local DNS servers.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Pretty sure Google has local DNS servers.

                They very well may have DNS servers local to @Joyfano's location, but I (try to) never assume.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Pretty sure Google has local DNS servers.

                  They very well may have DNS servers local to @Joyfano's location, but I (try to) never assume.

                  This is very recent...

                  http://manilastandardtoday.com/mobile/2014/06/10/speed-up-your-browsing/

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    This is very recent...

                    http://manilastandardtoday.com/mobile/2014/06/10/speed-up-your-browsing/

                    That has nothing to do with Google having a server close to them. I know what the public DNS values are for Google and OpenDNS (and AT&T not in that article). That does not mean any of those companies has a server farm close enough (and load balanced well) to serve all users.

                    There is very much a value add to using an ISP provided DNS as long as the ISP is doing both a solid caching job and correctly expiring out entries. The aggregate from all the ISP users hitting everything would likely mean that most sites are already cached locally at the ISP and will not be fed out to a server more hops away.

                    For most locations in the US, I would not ever bother with anything other than Google and OpenDNS. Based on the things @Joyfano has said about their networks over time, I would try to keep the number of hops as small as possible.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch hops are one thing and I agree, extra hops are bad. But bad ISPs with flaky DNS are worse. I'd lean to reliability before anything else.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        The DNS benchmark tool I mentioned earlier runs query tests against many known considered local to you DNS server. You can broaden the test to any and every DNS server known as well in the hopes of finding the fastest one FOR you.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Yes, you can definitely test your DNS speeds to see if the ISP, Google or OpenDNS is faster or by how much.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Looks like @joy is already awake!

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                            • JoyJ
                              Joy
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                              Good morning to all. Yeah I can't sleep. Thank you for all replies.. I'll try to figure out this things later.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Good morning.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Joy
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  @Joyfano morning. we argu... er debated about things while you were sleeping.

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                                  • JoyJ
                                    Joy @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @Joyfano morning. we argu... er debated about things while you were sleeping.

                                    Wow a lots of response i will check and read each post..I haven't use this router so I am sure i will learn a lot.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Joy
                                      last edited by

                                      @Joyfano yup, we work hard to discuss your issues while you sleep!

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                                      • StrongBadS
                                        StrongBad
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                                        How is it going today, @Joyfano?

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy @StrongBad
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                                          @StrongBad said:

                                          How is it going today, @Joyfano?

                                          Thank you for asking @StrongBad i haven't really tried to check day..
                                          pretty busy over here.

                                          I talked with my real boss and he told me that we should ask the provider to help us or if we need to attend training to fully utilize this router without being worried on how to integrate with AD.

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                                          • JoyJ
                                            Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Joyfano yup, we work hard to discuss your issues while you sleep!

                                            Thanks.. i will read all the replies probably after lunch..
                                            crossed finger

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