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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @tim_g said in IT Quotes I Like:

      @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

      @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

      @tim_g said in IT Quotes I Like:

      @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

      Had a boss when I was at my first IT job say "efficiency doesn't always pay the bills"

      We were arguing over the fact that we estimated a job to be 25 hours and it only took us 19. Rather than sit at the job for another 5 hours to make the money we wrapped up. The powers that be didn't like that. I wasn't there too much longer

      That could be considered stealing imo.

      Happened all the time. Bid X # of hours. Finish early, drag it out until we hit the hours bid.

      Hours bid generally means that those hours are negotiated and the expectation is that finishing faster does not mean lower cost.

      Yeah it depends, but that's now how it seems he meant it. I took it as the customer paid for hours worked, not hours negotiated up front.

      Coming from the software dev side... I only agree with that in cases where you have total confidence that overruns would not meet with resistance. I know that that is kind of impossible to predict, but you know how it goes. If it is truly hours, there is little need for the estimate. What if the time went over by 50% or more? Would the customer have pushed back? If so, there is little or no justification for accepting fewer hours either.

      In one time transactions, this is a tough situation. But I can tell you, software shops get burned by this. They have to take profit where they can get it, because there is so much refusal to pay if the estimate is off in the other direction.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

        @dashrender said in IT Quotes I Like:

        @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

        @tim_g said in IT Quotes I Like:

        @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

        Had a boss when I was at my first IT job say "efficiency doesn't always pay the bills"

        We were arguing over the fact that we estimated a job to be 25 hours and it only took us 19. Rather than sit at the job for another 5 hours to make the money we wrapped up. The powers that be didn't like that. I wasn't there too much longer

        That could be considered stealing imo.

        Happened all the time. Bid X # of hours. Finish early, drag it out until we hit the hours bid.

        You fix this by bidding the project, not the hours. Of course, this can royally bite you in the ass.

        It's more that you bid for a minimum.

        awww... so that's how all those city construction projects work... yep this road will cost $1 million and be done in 3 months.. oh.. this just a minimum, it could easily be 100x that and take 10 years.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in IT Quotes I Like:

          @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

          @dashrender said in IT Quotes I Like:

          @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

          @tim_g said in IT Quotes I Like:

          @wls-itguy said in IT Quotes I Like:

          Had a boss when I was at my first IT job say "efficiency doesn't always pay the bills"

          We were arguing over the fact that we estimated a job to be 25 hours and it only took us 19. Rather than sit at the job for another 5 hours to make the money we wrapped up. The powers that be didn't like that. I wasn't there too much longer

          That could be considered stealing imo.

          Happened all the time. Bid X # of hours. Finish early, drag it out until we hit the hours bid.

          You fix this by bidding the project, not the hours. Of course, this can royally bite you in the ass.

          It's more that you bid for a minimum.

          awww... so that's how all those city construction projects work... yep this road will cost $1 million and be done in 3 months.. oh.. this just a minimum, it could easily be 100x that and take 10 years.

          Of course, it is literally impossible to accurately estimate those kinds of projects. But government, being corrupt, doesn't care about fixing that process. They care about politics. So fake estimates are valuable to them, and overruns are valuable to the vendors. So "everyone" wins because the only loser is the taxpayer who has no say.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

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              What's being referred to?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                @tim_g said in IT Quotes I Like:

                @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

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                What's being referred to?

                Oh shoot, lol.

                RAID 0

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1
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                  More programming than IT, but still, I think we all get it.

                  https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7xe8JQiU3Wc/Wm-VjbZ3MBI/AAAAAAAAE6w/oxanHMdOZ6sbFRrEeke2zCTYXxmk40jwACJoC/w530-h582-n-rw/javascriptvsjava.PNG

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 that's awesome.

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                    • pmonchoP
                      pmoncho
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                      [IT] "Exist to work with internal partners to provide better services to the REAL customers" - Bob Lewis

                      "Every organization is perfectly designed for the results it gets" - Bob Lewis

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                        Added this...

                        There is no Uber, only other people's cars. - Chad Wilson

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          • thwrT
                            thwr
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                            No issue, no problem

                            That's what I tell people as a developer when they "report" bugs... usually in any imaginable way except an issue tracker. Can be easily translated to:

                            No ticket, no problem.

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                            • CCWTechC
                              CCWTech
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                              Troubleshooting printer issues is a pain in the ass. - me

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                              • LilAngL
                                LilAng
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                                "I should have stayed in the veterinary world and not switched careers." -Tech1

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @LilAng
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                                  @tech1 said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                  "I should have stayed in the veterinary world and not switched careers." -Tech1

                                  LOL, rough day?

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                                  • LilAngL
                                    LilAng @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                    @tech1 said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                    "I should have stayed in the veterinary world and not switched careers." -Tech1

                                    LOL, rough day?

                                    nah, I just miss playing with puppies and kittens all day haha.

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                                    • CCWTechC
                                      CCWTech
                                      last edited by CCWTech

                                      Dealing with this failed update I'm thinking I could go play with dogs for a living! (not Cats!)

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                                      • LilAngL
                                        LilAng @CCWTech
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                                        @ccwtech said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                        Dealing with this failed update I'm thinking I could go play with dogs for a living! (not Cat's!)

                                        It's ok man, at least now you know where Arkansas is.

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                                        • CCWTechC
                                          CCWTech @LilAng
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                                          @tech1 said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                          @ccwtech said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                          Dealing with this failed update I'm thinking I could go play with dogs for a living! (not Cat's!)

                                          It's ok man, at least now you know where Arkansas is.

                                          Dork!

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                                          • LilAngL
                                            LilAng @CCWTech
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                                            @ccwtech said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                            @tech1 said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                            @ccwtech said in IT Quotes I Like:

                                            Dealing with this failed update I'm thinking I could go play with dogs for a living! (not Cat's!)

                                            It's ok man, at least now you know where Arkansas is.

                                            Dork!

                                            "I want my mtv" -Sting

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