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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @Net Runner
      last edited by

      @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

      Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

      Literally any other brand would be a better choice, but Ubiquiti is the way to go.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Net Runner
        last edited by

        @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

        "Standard" in the way that doesn't mean anything good. They are the "standard" for VARs to push on the SMB market.

        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/no-one-ever-got-fired-for-buying/

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Net Runner
          last edited by

          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

          Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

            @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

            Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

            Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

            Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

            Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

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            • popesterP
              popester @travisdh1
              last edited by

              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

              Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

              Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

              Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

              Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @popester
                last edited by

                @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                You should not look at the $45 model, it's not enough for business use. The ERL is the starter unit for business and is often $95, but can be found for closer to $80.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @popester
                  last edited by

                  @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                  Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                  Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                  Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                  Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                  I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                    Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                    Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                    Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                    Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                    I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                    The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @popester
                      last edited by thwr

                      @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      sco starts to look silly.

                      Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious l

                      EdgeRouter X with or without SFP

                      If you need something faster, EdgeRouter 4/6. Need more? EdgeRouter Infinity

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                        Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                        Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                        Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                        Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                        I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                        The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                        I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @thwr
                          last edited by

                          @thwr said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                          Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                          Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                          Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                          Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                          I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                          The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                          I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

                          Lucky man!

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                            Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                            Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                            Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                            Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                            I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                            The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                            I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                              Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                              Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                              Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                              Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                              I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                              The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                              I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                              • RojoLocoR
                                RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                If you keep posting pics, your wife might find out....

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                                  Alex Sage @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  I am currently making out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                  Does she put out?

                                  How many Mps? =P

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/02/that-mega-vulnerability-cisco-dropped-is-now-under-exploit/

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/02/that-mega-vulnerability-cisco-dropped-is-now-under-exploit/

                                      They can own all the ASAs!

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