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@bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:
Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?
That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."
Lack of understanding or unwillingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.
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@dashrender said in Need a host recommendation:
@bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:
Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?
That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."
Lack of understanding or willingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.
Lack of understanding
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@bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:
Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?
That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."
Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.
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Does the R630 chassis have enough bays for your storage? I don't see a total capacity for the SQL drives. You can pack 24 of the 1.8" drives in the thing, and I guess if money is no object 23TB of SSD should handle most loads.
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FFS. You all need to just STFU about the money no limit and wtf no budget thing.
Nothing in his post insinuated either no money or unlimited money.
Just fuck....
He posted some light criteria and appropriately was not constraining himself to an arbitrary dollar figure for no reason.
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@jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...
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If you are going with Hyper-V Server then try and get the backplane drive some of the l Dell hardware has.
Drop you OS SATA disks on that and go to town.
This lets you just grab all SSD RAID5 for the array, assuming that it can meet your storage size needs.
It might only be the 2U models that have that.
Call XByte, then can make you magic.
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@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
@bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:
Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?
That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."
Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.
But it is not relevant to his process because the constraint has been applied. Appropriately or not, it is there. He is at the point that he needs to find hardware to meet the specifications he has been handed.
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@mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:
@jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...
In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.
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@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.
in the very first post he said:
10k disk for VM OS
15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.So that made me think local storage.
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@mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:
@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.
in the very first post he said:
10k disk for VM OS
15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.So that made me think local storage.
Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.
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@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
@mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:
@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.
in the very first post he said:
10k disk for VM OS
15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.So that made me think local storage.
Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.
Nope. On the hosts. Local Storage. There is some DAS equipment currently connected but that is more for archiving and backups. That's it.
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I've had a similar situation with one of my customers already a while ago. At the end of the day, I landed up with pre-built hyper-converged appliances (a pair of them). Since the budget was the main constraint and DELL was a requirement, I've purchased very customized servers by starwind https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-hyperconverged-appliance (almost no storage and powerful CPU for SQL). These were exactly DELL R630 (not sure if they still ship those) delivered by xByte. One is located in the server room on ground floor and the other one is 2 floors higher. Interconnection is 2 x 10 GBe links. Pretty happy so far.
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@nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:
@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
@mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:
@scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:
In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.
in the very first post he said:
10k disk for VM OS
15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.So that made me think local storage.
Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.
Nope. On the hosts. Local Storage. There is some DAS equipment currently connected but that is more for archiving and backups. That's it.
Oh, ok. I'm so confused then, lol.
