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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
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      Does my SW guide have the common WSUS CLI commands on there? I forget.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

        Does my SW guide have the common WSUS CLI commands on there? I forget.

        Yes, it does.

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        • dave247D
          dave247 @Obsolesce
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          @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

          @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

          @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

          @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

          I have not been able to see any of my computers show up.

          If everything is set up correctly, it could take a while for computers to show up in WSUS, and show their update statuses.

          Sometimes they show up fast, sometimes they take a day. But if it's set up correctly, they WILL eventually show up.

          I set this up before a few weeks ago with a different server and I had computers show up and at that time I didn't even configure group policy or anything.. I will keep waiting though.

          Whenever you apply computer group policy, or change a computers AD group membership (add/remove), you'll need to reboot the computer. Computer changes take effect during boot, user changes at login.

          I usually just run cmd as admin and run gpupdate /force, which usually works. I also check with gpresult /h. That being said, I did reboot things in an attempt to get them working this time.. still no dice.

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          • dave247D
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            ok so now I have 2 Windows 10 computers that showed up, out of the 7 I added to the test group. They show up under All Computers but not the Workstations group which I've added them to.. not sure why
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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @dave247
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              @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

              ok so now I have 2 Windows 10 computers that showed up, out of the 7 I added to the test group. They show up under All Computers but not the Workstations group which I've added them to.. not sure why
              0_1514846040883_16b811cb-c0f4-442b-aa83-00fd67f795e0-image.png

              I believe the issue is with the security filtering on your GPOs, I do groups assignments by Computer OU instead.

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              • dave247D
                dave247 @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                ok so now I have 2 Windows 10 computers that showed up, out of the 7 I added to the test group. They show up under All Computers but not the Workstations group which I've added them to.. not sure why
                0_1514846040883_16b811cb-c0f4-442b-aa83-00fd67f795e0-image.png

                I believe the issue is with the security filtering on your GPOs, I do groups assignments by Computer OU instead.

                oh.. well that's the way I had it at first and it seemed to work (kinda). I was just following Tim_G's guide on SpiceWorks

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  Did you specify the WSUS group in the group policys?

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                  • dave247D
                    dave247 @Obsolesce
                    last edited by dave247

                    @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                    Did you specify the WSUS group in the group policys?

                    Yes, via the "Enable client side targeting" option

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                    • dave247D
                      dave247 @dbeato
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                      @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                      ok so now I have 2 Windows 10 computers that showed up, out of the 7 I added to the test group. They show up under All Computers but not the Workstations group which I've added them to.. not sure why
                      0_1514846040883_16b811cb-c0f4-442b-aa83-00fd67f795e0-image.png

                      I believe the issue is with the security filtering on your GPOs, I do groups assignments by Computer OU instead.

                      So when you say you go group assignments by OU, do you mean that you aren't using the client side targeting at all, and therefore do not have your computers in any sort of AD group associated with WSUS? You just add the WSUS GPO to the OU you want it to apply to and computers just show up in the WSUS list and you can update them from there?

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @dave247
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                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                        @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                        ok so now I have 2 Windows 10 computers that showed up, out of the 7 I added to the test group. They show up under All Computers but not the Workstations group which I've added them to.. not sure why
                        0_1514846040883_16b811cb-c0f4-442b-aa83-00fd67f795e0-image.png

                        I believe the issue is with the security filtering on your GPOs, I do groups assignments by Computer OU instead.

                        So when you say you go group assignments by OU, do you mean that you aren't using the client side targeting at all, and therefore do not have your computers in any sort of AD group associated with WSUS? You just add the WSUS GPO to the OU you want it to apply to and computers just show up in the WSUS list and you can update them from there?

                        Correct

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                        • momurdaM
                          momurda @dave247
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                          @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

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                          • dave247D
                            dave247 @momurda
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                            @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                            @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                            Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato @dave247
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                              @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                              @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                              @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                              Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                              Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

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                              • dave247D
                                dave247 @dbeato
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                                @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                oh I see.. like a lot faster? Like instantly? I'm totally new to WSUS...

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @dave247
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                                  @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                  Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                  Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                  oh I see.. like a lot faster? Like instantly? I'm totally new to WSUS...

                                  Like 5 to 10 minutes.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @dave247
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                                    @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                    @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                    @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                    @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                    @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                    Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                    Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                    oh I see.. like a lot faster? Like instantly? I'm totally new to WSUS...

                                    Normally whatever the normal time that your PCs refresh their GPO's.. I think the default is around 15 mins.

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                                    • dave247D
                                      dave247 @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                      Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                      Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                      oh I see.. like a lot faster? Like instantly? I'm totally new to WSUS...

                                      Normally whatever the normal time that your PCs refresh their GPO's.. I think the default is around 15 mins.

                                      ah. Well I usually never wait, lol. Just remote in and run gpupdate /force or even run it on the OU through GPMC

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @dave247
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                                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @dashrender said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                        @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                        Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                        Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                        oh I see.. like a lot faster? Like instantly? I'm totally new to WSUS...

                                        Normally whatever the normal time that your PCs refresh their GPO's.. I think the default is around 15 mins.

                                        ah. Well I usually never wait, lol. Just remote in and run gpupdate /force or even run it on the OU through GPMC

                                        Then it should be within a few mins (under 5) before they show up in WSUS.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite
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                                          Make sure under Delegation tab, you have Authenticated Users with Read Permissions for your Policy. Especially if you removed it from the Security Filtering.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @dbeato
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                                            @dbeato said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                            @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                            @momurda said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                            @dave247 Yes. I apply an 'wsus' gpo to my Workstations OU. This gets all computers in the OU to show up in wsus. In wsus i make groups(local to wsus application) for grouping computers by OS.

                                            Damn, that sounds like a much better approach. That way I don't have to add the extra step of adding all my computers to an additional AD group. So is this just a matter of not configuring the "Enable client-side" targeting option? I'm only asking because it seems like it's taking WSUS a long time before computers show up. It took like 2 days before 3 out of 7 systems showed up under the All Computers group..

                                            Group assigments take faster to apply than OUs.

                                            Not really, sometimes they show up instantly, other times they do not. I don't know why, but one way is not faster than the other. It just does not work like that.

                                            When I set up a new computer, it always shows up in WSUS instantly and in the correct WSUS group. When I set an old existing computer, it typically shows up instantly.

                                            But you have to have eveyrthing set up correctly.

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