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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech
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      Going from 2008 R2 Standard to Server 2016 Standard

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      • CCWTechC
        CCWTech
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        20 MB/s seems horrible to me. My home network is much faster than that.

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        • pmonchoP
          pmoncho @CCWTech
          last edited by pmoncho

          @ccwtech

          @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

          Going from 2008 R2 Standard to Server 2016 Standard

          Hmmmm.. Are the workstations W7 or W10? Wondering if using different SMB versions may be an issue as well. I only mention this because I had a network issue a long time ago when I went from 2003 to 2008R2 and SMB was an issue until everyone was on W7 from XP.

          Edit: - Also, are there any errors in the Event Viewer when copying large files or starting the app from a desktop?

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          • CCWTechC
            CCWTech
            last edited by CCWTech

            Mixture of 7 and 10.

            I should have tried this earlier, but I tried the application on my other VM (the domain controller - same physical box) and it's slow there as well. It's also slow on the physical box.

            At least that eliminates a ton, but still doesn't tell me why it would be fast on the other VM itself.

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            • CCWTechC
              CCWTech
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              I was thinking that my last post may be very critical in solving this issue. Any ideas to help?

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              • pmonchoP
                pmoncho @CCWTech
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                @ccwtech

                Just trying to get your setup correct, Multiple 2016 VM's on one 2016 Hyper-V host. 1 RDS, 1 FS and 1 DC?

                Is app installed on RDS or FS server?

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                • CCWTechC
                  CCWTech @pmoncho
                  last edited by CCWTech

                  @pmoncho said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                  @ccwtech

                  Just trying to get your setup correct, Multiple 2016 VM's on one 2016 Hyper-V host. 1 RDS, 1 FS and 1 DC?

                  Is app installed on RDS or FS server?

                  1 Physical Box with 2 VM's

                  1 - DC/DNS/DHCP
                  1 - File Server/RDS Server (Application resides here)

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    And when it worked better - what was that setup?

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                    • pmonchoP
                      pmoncho @CCWTech
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                      @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                      @pmoncho said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                      @ccwtech

                      Just trying to get your setup correct, Multiple 2016 VM's on one 2016 Hyper-V host. 1 RDS, 1 FS and 1 DC?

                      Is app installed on RDS or FS server?

                      1 Physical Box with 2 VM's

                      1 - DC/DNS/DHCP
                      1 - File Server/RDS Server (Application resides here)

                      I am guessing they are are all on the same vswitch?

                      Is it slow when you access the app from the DC?

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                      • CCWTechC
                        CCWTech
                        last edited by

                        OLD vs. New

                        OLD:
                        Intel Xeon E5245 2.33Ghz (DUAL) / 16 GB Ram / 7,200 hard drives in RAID 1 / Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme GigE
                        VM1 - DC/DHCP/DNS - 8 Virtual Processors, 4 GB Static RAM, - Application resides on this box (file server)
                        VM2 - RDS Server - 5 Virtual Processors, 6 GB Static RAM - Used to remote into and run the application from VM1

                        NEW:
                        Intel Xeon E5-2640 v4 2.4 Ghz / 64 GB Ram / 10,000 hard drives in RAID 10 / Intel I210 GB
                        VM1 - DC/DHCP/DNS - 1 Virtual Processor, 4 GB Static RAM
                        VM2 - RDS Server - 4 Virtual Processors, 24 GB Static RAM - This is RDS box and also where the application resides

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
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                          Maybe the issue is that SMBv1 is not available anymore for Server 2016 could be affecting the performance accessing over the network.

                          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4034314/smbv1-is-not-installed-windows-10-and-windows-server-version-1709

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                          • dbeatoD
                            dbeato @black3dynamite
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                            @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                            Maybe the issue is that SMBv1 is not available anymore for Server 2016 could be affecting the performance accessing over the network.

                            https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4034314/smbv1-is-not-installed-windows-10-and-windows-server-version-1709

                            But you can enable just to test.

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                            • CCWTechC
                              CCWTech
                              last edited by

                              I'll give that a shot. Thank you!

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                              • I
                                i3
                                last edited by

                                What is the name of the application you are using? Have you tried to reach out to their support or Google around the issues you are having?

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                                • pmonchoP
                                  pmoncho @CCWTech
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                                  @ccwtech

                                  Also, don't forget to check the Event Viewer to see if there may be an error related to SMBv1/2/3.

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                                  • CCWTechC
                                    CCWTech @i3
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                                    @i3 It's a very proprietary veterinary software that was developed in the 80's and hasn't been updated since.

                                    And... It's the industry leader. Their support is < worthless

                                    Maybe not exact quote but @scottalanmiller said something to the effect of 'software developed by my uncle 20 years ago on a weekend when he was bored.'

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      So, old setup:

                                      Win7/Win 10 using RDP to connect to RDS server (was it full desktop or published app?), and the RDS server connected via SMB to the File Server share to access the application?

                                      No changes to the physical network switches?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        And the current setup is:

                                        Win 7/Win 10 PCs connect via RPD to RDS Server, where the application is now. So there is no need for the RDS to talk to the File Server?

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                                        • CCWTechC
                                          CCWTech
                                          last edited by

                                          OLD: Full desktop, and yes access to the file server share

                                          New/Current: Yes, some are RDS and some are through SMB. I have always put the application closest to the users as possible. RDS the application is fast, via file share is slow.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @CCWTech
                                            last edited by

                                            @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            OLD: Full desktop, and yes access to the file server share

                                            New/Current: Yes, some are RDS and some are through SMB. I have always put the application closest to the users as possible. RDS the application is fast, via file share is slow.

                                            So RDS is for remote workers, and launch via SMB is for onsite users?

                                            I'd double check the VMQ settings on the host.

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