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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @IRJ
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      @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

      Post back here after 2 months of usage.

      Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

      It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

      @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

      I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

      The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

      How do you resolve the controller differences?

      All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

      I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

      Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

      An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

      https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

      Yeah but the games were designed with them in mind

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

        Post back here after 2 months of usage.

        Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

        It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

        @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

        I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

        The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

        How do you resolve the controller differences?

        All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

        I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

        Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

        An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

        https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

        Yeah but the games were designed with them in mind

        I find it much easier to use a comfortable, modern controller. You can change mapping for a specific game if you ever need to do so, but generally default works fine for me.

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        • FredtxF
          Fredtx @IRJ
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          @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

          Post back here after 2 months of usage.

          Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

          It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

          @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

          I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

          The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

          How do you resolve the controller differences?

          All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

          I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

          Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

          An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

          https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

          About 3 weeks ago I actually found my old Nintendo 64 with 3 controllers and only 1 of them worked...lol Those joysticks were such crap. I wasn't even able to play Blitz with my buddy.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @Fredtx
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            @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

            Post back here after 2 months of usage.

            Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

            It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

            @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

            I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

            The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

            How do you resolve the controller differences?

            All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

            I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

            Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

            An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

            https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

            About 3 weeks ago I actually found my old Nintendo 64 with 3 controllers and only 1 of them worked...lol Those joysticks were such crap. I wasn't even able to play Blitz with my buddy.

            The joysticks only felt new for a week. Within 6 months they became useless

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

              Post back here after 2 months of usage.

              Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

              It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

              @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

              I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

              The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

              How do you resolve the controller differences?

              All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

              I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

              Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

              An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

              https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

              Yeah but the games were designed with them in mind

              Designed like crap you mean.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Fredtx
                last edited by

                @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                @breffni-potter said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                Post back here after 2 months of usage.

                Not quite two months of usage (about 6 weeks), but I wanted to report back before I forgot about this thread. The android TV has become our main media box on our tv. I bought another one to replace my firestick on our tv in our bedroom.

                It is still running much faster than my firestick ever did, and all classic roms (Nes, SNES, gameboy, N64) run very smooth without issues. We are also playing through several android games such Xcom, KOTR, and more all of which run flawlessly. We are able to download Netflix and Amazon Prime videos offline to take with us when traveling to my parents house for the kids. Which is not possible with Firestick.

                @IRJ I would like to get this setup for my daughter. (and me of course). Any game simulator apps you recommend for getting the classic Rom's setup on the android box?

                I use john SNES and NES emulators. I also use Awe64 and reicast for Dreamcast games.

                The beauty of android is that you have a plethora of free and paid emulators to choose from. Most consoles have at least 10 different emulators to buy.

                How do you resolve the controller differences?

                All the emulators have both usb and Bluetooth support. Once you add a Bluetooth controller, you can map your own keys. Although, generally the default settings are pretty close to what you want. You can also use multiple controller by assigning a controller profile for each player.

                I mean the actual physical controller. Gamecube and Dreamcast specifically had very different button layouts. I guess you just buy the USB verrsions of those controllers? Would be awkward if you didn't I would think.

                Do you remember how bad some of those controllers were? The n64 controller is the absolute worse, but some of the others are really bad too. Try holding a NES or even a SNES controller now. I actually bought USB NES and SNES controllers, but I hate them. I hate the fact that they are wired, but what I hate the most is how terrible they feel compared to modern controllers.

                An additional benefit to using a modern controller is that you get to map extra buttons like quick save, quick loads, screenshot, etc. I beat Super Mario Kart the other day and was able to send my brother some bragging screenshots very easily because I have a button assigned to screenshot.

                https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-to-use-an-n64-controller-nintendo-whatd-they-actually-23552390.png

                About 3 weeks ago I actually found my old Nintendo 64 with 3 controllers and only 1 of them worked...lol Those joysticks were such crap. I wasn't even able to play Blitz with my buddy.

                All about gimic. No quality.

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                • FredtxF
                  Fredtx @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Fredtx
                    last edited by

                    @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                    @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                    Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                    And the Shield is already quite old.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                      @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                      @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                      Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                      And the Shield is already quite old.

                      Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                      Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler @IRJ
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                        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                        @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                        @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                        @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                        Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                        And the Shield is already quite old.

                        Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                        Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                        It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @IRJ
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                          @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                          @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                          @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                          @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                          Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                          And the Shield is already quite old.

                          Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                          Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                          They have incredibly popular IP's

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @PenguinWrangler
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                            @penguinwrangler said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                            @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                            @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                            @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                            Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                            And the Shield is already quite old.

                            Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                            Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                            It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

                            Yeah that is true. I meant to say games. Of course nostalgia has a lot to do with their success. I wonder how much the same games would make without Mario branding.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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                              @penguinwrangler said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                              @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                              @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                              @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                              @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                              Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                              And the Shield is already quite old.

                              Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                              Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                              It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

                              That's what makes the Nintendo stuff so bad. Yeah, the hardware is bad but if they made any good games it could overcome that.

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                                Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                                And the Shield is already quite old.

                                Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                                Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                                They have incredibly popular IP's

                                But did they make the companies money at launch? That's really all that matters. Anything else is a failure. Who gives a damn about nostalgia when your system breaks your company.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                  @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                  @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                  @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                                  Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                                  And the Shield is already quite old.

                                  Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                                  Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                                  They have incredibly popular IP's

                                  Yeah, popular, but only famous for being famous. It's terrible IP from a gaming perspective. Nintendo isn't really a gaming system as much as a nostalgia system.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                    @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                    @penguinwrangler said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                    @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                    @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                    @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                                    Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                                    And the Shield is already quite old.

                                    Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                                    Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                                    It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

                                    Yeah that is true. I meant to say games. Of course nostalgia has a lot to do with their success. I wonder how much the same games would make without Mario branding.

                                    My guess is that they'd make nothing at all. If it wasn't for the branding, Nintendo makes poorly rates $.49 Steam sale games.

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                                      @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                                      Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                                      And the Shield is already quite old.

                                      Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                                      Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                                      It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

                                      Yeah that is true. I meant to say games. Of course nostalgia has a lot to do with their success. I wonder how much the same games would make without Mario branding.

                                      My guess is that they'd make nothing at all. If it wasn't for the branding, Nintendo makes poorly rates $.49 Steam sale games.

                                      I think they make some fun newer games, but a lot of them aren't original or have good graphics. The gameplay is fun and can be addictive in some games. There are others like Mario sunshine or Luigi's mansion and just say wtf. Those games are really popular for whatever reason though.

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                                        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @penguinwrangler said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @irj said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @fredtx said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                        @scottalanmiller Just like the Nintendo Switch. It didn’t even come with a game. Also, for an extra controller it’s like $80 after tax. My daughter’s uncle got it for her for Christmas. I’m betting she’ll play with the Android box more as soon as it comes in.

                                        Oh yeah. Everything since the N64 has been garbage based completely around gimmicks. Wii and WiiU were so awful. The Switch is just the guts of an Nvidia Shield in a lower quality container at double the price.

                                        And the Shield is already quite old.

                                        Nintendo is lucky their name still carries so much weight. If any of those systems were designed by any company other than Nintendo, they'd be another Sega Saturn or jaguar 64.

                                        Nintendo just has so many fanboys and they are quite good with making fun games. Their niche is really software not hardware anymore.

                                        It is always about the software, even for the iPhone, Pixel phones, xbox, Playstation, etc. It is the software that really drives it. You can have the best hardware but if you have crappy software to put on it, the hardware is then perceived to be crappy as well.

                                        Yeah that is true. I meant to say games. Of course nostalgia has a lot to do with their success. I wonder how much the same games would make without Mario branding.

                                        My guess is that they'd make nothing at all. If it wasn't for the branding, Nintendo makes poorly rates $.49 Steam sale games.

                                        I think they make some fun newer games, but a lot of them aren't original or have good graphics. The gameplay is fun and can be addictive in some games. There are others like Mario sunshine or Luigi's mansion and just say wtf. Those games are really popular for whatever reason though.

                                        Same reason that all those cheezy apps advertise on television. The casual gamer market has exploded. Nintendo is THE system for people who don't like games. They make the kind of stuff that celebrities advertise on annoying push ads. Candy Crush and stuff like that.

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                                          It's a big market, but it's not a gamer market.

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                                            @scottalanmiller said in I grabbed an Android TV box...:

                                            It's terrible IP from a gaming perspective.

                                            I disagree with that, as I like some of their IP.

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