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    • AmbarishrhA
      Ambarishrh
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      We are currently using Zmanda Cloud backup pushing files to Amazon, recently got an email from Carbonite (they aquired Zmanda), that the Amazon storage will be stopped via Zmanda and we could migrate to Carbonite at almost half the price.

      Few reasons why I was interested in Zmanda was the freedom of storage in Amazon, and they were not following any proprietary file standard. We could just download the archive, rename as zip and good to go, but not sure how Carbonite handles this.

      The email from Carbonite states " As of December 15, 2014, Amazon Web Services (AWS) will discontinue the use of DevPay, the billing platform Zmanda uses to enable backups to AWS. As a result of this change, you will no longer be able to use your Zmanda Cloud Backup service after December 15, 2014."

      But am not sure if Amazon is stopping devpay or is it just carbonite trying to enforce their product.

      Any suggestions/advise?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Amazon says nothing of it closing. You can still sign up for it.

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        • AmbarishrhA
          Ambarishrh
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          Yes I couldn't see it either about closing devpay. Carbonite guys said if you want we can migrate your data to carbonite data center free of cost with half the cost on yearly basis. They don't have a monthly plan, I used to have a monthly plan with zcb and Amazon usage charges monthly.

          Am looking at options. Even if I check for any solution, I am not sure on how to migrate the data from Amazon Zmanda account.

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad @Ambarishrh
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            @ambarishrh said:

            Yes I couldn't see it either about closing devpay. Carbonite guys said if you want we can migrate your data to carbonite data center free of cost with half the cost on yearly basis. They don't have a monthly plan, I used to have a monthly plan with zcb and Amazon usage charges monthly.

            Am looking at options. Even if I check for any solution, I am not sure on how to migrate the data from Amazon Zmanda account.

            Must you migrate? Is it just backups or is it archives too? What about just a fresh backup to another location?

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            • AmbarishrhA
              Ambarishrh
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              Its the current running backup and the archives, quite a lot actually from past 4 years. almost 11 TB. I am trying to find an option to keep that in Amazon and continue with another tool to the same storage. not sure whom to contact in Amazon for this.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                @ambarishrh That's a good thought. But I am guessing that Zmanda owned that Amazon space so the data is technically theirs and not yours and so Amazon will have no means of giving you access to it without them. You could request from Carbonite that they transfer your data over to you on S3 but I suspect that they have the data comingled and can't do that.

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                • AmbarishrhA
                  Ambarishrh
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                  I've emailed Amazon sales team on this, and I hope I get a positive reply. What do you suggest to use as a backup tool for Amazon now? I have a SQL DB for our fingerprint device, plus files from our Netapp to backup. I remember jungledisk.

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                  • AmbarishrhA
                    Ambarishrh
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                    Cloudberry seems to have decent app for S3 and glacier, but for them they have different products and licensing for MS Sql, Files, Bare metal etc.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                      @ambarishrh said:

                      I've emailed Amazon sales team on this, and I hope I get a positive reply. What do you suggest to use as a backup tool for Amazon now? I have a SQL DB for our fingerprint device, plus files from our Netapp to backup. I remember jungledisk.

                      JD will use Amazon S3 as a target but if you are starting over with an encapsulated product like that I would not tie myself to Amazon (necessarily) and probably avoid that kind of system entirely.

                      CloudBerry lets you use your own cloud account as a storage target.

                      Most enterprise backup tools will today too.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                        @ambarishrh said:

                        Cloudberry seems to have decent app for S3 and glacier, but for them they have different products and licensing for MS Sql, Files, Bare metal etc.

                        Yes, very granular.

                        I would look at more normal tools like StorageCraft, Unitrends, etc. Then connect them to the cloud rather than looking at cloud tools specifically.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned
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                          Just as an example, I know you can use Unitrends for local backups and then archive to cloud storage (including Amazon). I sets up basically the same as archiving to a NAS (but you need a key generated by Amazon to connect on their end).

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                          • AmbarishrhA
                            Ambarishrh
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                            Thanks I need to check unitrends. Zcb does the same thing of using Amazon certificate connecting to push the files

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                            • StevenS
                              Steven
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                              This post (https://forums.zmanda.com/showthread.php?5572-ZCB-is-closing&p=17597#post17597) has an email address and telephone number if you want to ask whether your data is comingled or how you might move the almost 11TB of data to your own storage space in Amazon.

                              Cloudberry is nice because it provides you with a connection to your storage which potentially any backup software could use as a destination target. A number of our (StorageCraft) customers point to Amazon as an offsite repository.

                              Cheers!

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