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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech
      last edited by CCWTech

      So for greater redundancy RAID 10?

      Is the reason for 5 vs. 10 just the cost of the extra drive?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @CCWTech
        last edited by

        @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

        So for greater redundancy RAID 10?

        Is the reason for 5 vs. 10 just the cost of the extra drive?

        Yes, it's a much bigger cost on SSDs.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @CCWTech
          last edited by

          @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

          Would a RAID 6 be better for the extra redundancy?

          RAID isn't that simple. Does the cost for extra parity make sense?

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          • CCWTechC
            CCWTech @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

            @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

            Would a RAID 6 be better for the extra redundancy?

            RAID isn't that simple. Does the cost for extra parity make sense?

            Was looking at the fact that you can lose 2 drives (not just one) as an extra safeguard. But in a 4 drive SSD RAID 10 makes more sense to me than 6.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @CCWTech
              last edited by wirestyle22

              @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

              @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

              @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

              Would a RAID 6 be better for the extra redundancy?

              RAID isn't that simple. Does the cost for extra parity make sense?

              Was looking at the fact that you can lose 2 drives (not just one) as an extra safeguard. But in a 4 drive SSD RAID 10 makes more sense to me than 6.

              It does, but you have to invest in double the HD's for the same capacity. If redundancy is your only concern then Raid 10.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                last edited by

                @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                Would a RAID 6 be better for the extra redundancy?

                RAID isn't that simple. Does the cost for extra parity make sense?

                Was looking at the fact that you can lose 2 drives (not just one) as an extra safeguard. But in a 4 drive SSD RAID 10 makes more sense to me than 6.

                That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

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                • CCWTechC
                  CCWTech @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                  That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

                  Which one? You have several RAID videos.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                    last edited by

                    @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                    @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                    That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

                    Which one? You have several RAID videos.

                    It's in the queue, not visible yet. It's specifically about why we don't look at "how many drives can be lost"

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                    • CCWTechC
                      CCWTech @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                      @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                      @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                      That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

                      Which one? You have several RAID videos.

                      It's in the queue, not visible yet. It's specifically about why we don't look at "how many drives can be lost"
                      Ahhh, ok.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @Francesco Provino
                        last edited by

                        @francesco-provino said in RAID on SSD's:

                        @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                        I set up my servers with RAID 10 and 10 or 15 K RPM Drives and a dedicated RAID card and an SSD Drive for CacheCade.

                        However with the decrease in pricing for SSD drives, I would like to start using them more in servers.

                        1. Still do RAID 10 with SSD's?
                        2. Is a dedicated RAID card still needed if using SSD's?
                        1. Usually RAID 5 makes sense. Still RAID 10 if you want maximum performance. Be aware that you can saturate almost any SATA/SAS controller with the performances of 6-7 SSD.
                        2. Apply the same consideration for the HDD.

                        I actually came here to ask about #1 - is that 6 drives in raid10? Has anyone measured this / tested it etc?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                          last edited by

                          @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                          @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                          @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                          @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                          That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

                          Which one? You have several RAID videos.

                          It's in the queue, not visible yet. It's specifically about why we don't look at "how many drives can be lost"
                          Ahhh, ok.

                          I just looked, looks like it is actually on schedule for tomorrow!

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                          • CCWTechC
                            CCWTech
                            last edited by

                            Nice!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @mattspeller said in RAID on SSD's:

                              @francesco-provino said in RAID on SSD's:

                              @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                              I set up my servers with RAID 10 and 10 or 15 K RPM Drives and a dedicated RAID card and an SSD Drive for CacheCade.

                              However with the decrease in pricing for SSD drives, I would like to start using them more in servers.

                              1. Still do RAID 10 with SSD's?
                              2. Is a dedicated RAID card still needed if using SSD's?
                              1. Usually RAID 5 makes sense. Still RAID 10 if you want maximum performance. Be aware that you can saturate almost any SATA/SAS controller with the performances of 6-7 SSD.
                              2. Apply the same consideration for the HDD.

                              I actually came here to ask about #1 - is that 6 drives in raid10? Has anyone measured this / tested it etc?

                              Yes, xByte tested that. It saturated REALLY low.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                                @mattspeller said in RAID on SSD's:

                                @francesco-provino said in RAID on SSD's:

                                @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                                I set up my servers with RAID 10 and 10 or 15 K RPM Drives and a dedicated RAID card and an SSD Drive for CacheCade.

                                However with the decrease in pricing for SSD drives, I would like to start using them more in servers.

                                1. Still do RAID 10 with SSD's?
                                2. Is a dedicated RAID card still needed if using SSD's?
                                1. Usually RAID 5 makes sense. Still RAID 10 if you want maximum performance. Be aware that you can saturate almost any SATA/SAS controller with the performances of 6-7 SSD.
                                2. Apply the same consideration for the HDD.

                                I actually came here to ask about #1 - is that 6 drives in raid10? Has anyone measured this / tested it etc?

                                Yes, xByte tested that. It saturated REALLY low.

                                That's interesting. I didn't know that.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                                  @mattspeller said in RAID on SSD's:

                                  @francesco-provino said in RAID on SSD's:

                                  @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                                  I set up my servers with RAID 10 and 10 or 15 K RPM Drives and a dedicated RAID card and an SSD Drive for CacheCade.

                                  However with the decrease in pricing for SSD drives, I would like to start using them more in servers.

                                  1. Still do RAID 10 with SSD's?
                                  2. Is a dedicated RAID card still needed if using SSD's?
                                  1. Usually RAID 5 makes sense. Still RAID 10 if you want maximum performance. Be aware that you can saturate almost any SATA/SAS controller with the performances of 6-7 SSD.
                                  2. Apply the same consideration for the HDD.

                                  I actually came here to ask about #1 - is that 6 drives in raid10? Has anyone measured this / tested it etc?

                                  Yes, xByte tested that. It saturated REALLY low.

                                  http://www.xbyte.com/blog/testing-the-limits-of-the-dell-h710-raid-controller-with-ssd/

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                                    last edited by

                                    @ccwtech said in RAID on SSD's:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in RAID on SSD's:

                                    That's not a way to measure RAID reliability. I actually a video about why we never mention "number of lost drives" in the SAMIT queue.

                                    Which one? You have several RAID videos.

                                    It posted.

                                    Youtube Video

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