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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @dbeato
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      @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

      @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

      @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

      @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

      Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

      I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

      So the Router options need to be change on each scope to have the correct gateway. You shouldn't need to have multiple gateways for each subnet. Do you have the guest subnet VLANs accessible from the Server?

      He only actually has two subnets.
      10.10.0.0/22 and 10.10.4.0/24

      Then that still is not good.

      Exactly, and he's shown that he has many DHCP scopes scooped up into a SuperScope. all of that needs to be deleted and a new single zone for the 10.10.0.0/22 needs to be created.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato
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        @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @dbeato
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          @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

          @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

          No he isn't. He has a large subnet and a small subnet.

          The large subnet has multiple gateways assigned on various computers for unknown reasons, but it is just 1 large subnet.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

            @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

            I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

              @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

              @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

              I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

              I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
              https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Looking back at the config in the first post - it appears that whoever set this up felt that they needed more than /22 on the single network, so they tossed on the 10.10.4.0/24 to give 256 more addresses to that space - why they didn't just go to 10.10.0.0/21 I don't understand.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                    @dashrender Because that would take it to 10.10.7.255

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                      @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                      @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                      @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                      @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                      I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                      I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                      https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                      Sure you did, but it doesn't actually show you the full size of the network... i.e. 10.10.0.0-10.0.3.254

                      ...............

                      look at the picture again....

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                        I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                        I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                        https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                        Sure you did, but it doesn't actually show you the full size of the network... i.e. 10.10.0.0-10.0.3.254

                        ...............

                        look at the picture again....

                        yeah, I just noticed that last line.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                          @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                          @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                          @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                          I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                          I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                          https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                          That makes more sense. So is just bad DHCP configuration.

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                            krisleslie @dbeato
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                            Ok so this makes a lot more sense. Heads up guys im not the network specialist so its really outside of my thought processes. Thats a weak point of mine and I am studying to get the network +.

                            With that said, so I can make sure I understand is first the router was incorrectly setup on that one interface. To fix that, I will need to remove the other gateways and ultimately have just 10.10.0.1/21 instead of 10.10.2.1/22. If i were to remove it during business hours, some wireless devices eventually didnt have a gateway and thus no connection to the internet. But removing them will cleanse that problem after clean up the Windows Server DHCP service.

                            So to fix the DHCP server, we need to remove each scope and super-scope and recreate only one scope as 10.10.0.0/21 which negates whatever way this was setup originally. The static ips we had assigned should still work and I just need to make sure we are excluding them from the scope.

                            Lastly reboot and pray and possibly with adult bevarages.

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                              krisleslie @krisleslie
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                              The biggest issue i have is i normally have a well defined sheet that i structure for the entire network. Its not as good as ive seen some folks on here or spiceworks but it was easy enough to read and have a sense of knowing everything had a place.

                              The way my associate setup this network, hell i cant even make heads or tails of it. Truth be told he cant either its just wrote down in a notepad in scribble last time we discussed this.

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                                krisleslie @krisleslie
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                                I disabled the guest wifi to reduce the suck until the issue is resolved. I’ll reenable it soon and put it on its on network.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Sounds good. Though I would add 10.10.0.1/21 now and leave the firewall alone until you make the other changes. This will enable everything to keep working until the other changes are made.

                                  Also, look at the lease time on your DHCP server. Set it to something like 4 hours for now. Assuming it's the default 8 days or whatever MS sets things to, changing it to 4 hours (or less) will allow you to make changes and have clients pick those changes up quickly. But once you make this change, you'll need to wait 8 days before starting anything to make sure all DHCP clients have the new shorter lease time. After things are stable, you can increase the lease time back to whatever you're happy with.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Question - what is the 10.10.4.x network? Do you really need more than 1022 (i.e. /22) devices on your network?
                                    If 10.10.4.x is a guest network, you probably want to leave that as a separate VLAN to protect against your production network.

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                                    • K
                                      krisleslie @krisleslie
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                                      Now that I see how this was improperly done I will more than likely have to go to our second site and do the same thing there as well 😞

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @krisleslie
                                        last edited by

                                        @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                        Now that I see how this was improperly done I will more than likely have to go to our second site and do the same thing there as well 😞

                                        How are the two sites connected?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @krisleslie
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                                          @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                          The static ips we had assigned should still work and I just need to make sure we are excluding them from the scope.

                                          The going the way you originally posted, removing 10.10.2.1 might break your statically assigned devices.

                                          Also, @JaredBusch has been suggesting that people move away from statically assigned devices with very few exceptions (firewall, VM hosts, DHCP server, etc). Instead use DHCP reservations. This saves you the hassle of changing device settings on those devices if the need (like now) arises in the future.

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                                          • K
                                            krisleslie @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender at one point they were connected and had to be disconnected. The assistant never gave a reason to why. In hindsight prolly due to improper setup.

                                            Problem I have is he took it upon himself to make a lot of the decisions vs consulting me. I had bigger fish to fry but its all coming back to haunt me. Very suck at this point.

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