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    Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets

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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      This REALLY shows why Intel doesn't know what they are doing or take security seriously. Putting a product that they trust so little that they are ashamed to disclose anything about it at the core of controlling their CPUs is just incompetent. It's widely been known to be a backdoor, this clinches that.

      If you see the link, it links also to Lenovo support for not real reason that I can see.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        This REALLY shows why Intel doesn't know what they are doing or take security seriously. Putting a product that they trust so little that they are ashamed to disclose anything about it at the core of controlling their CPUs is just incompetent. It's widely been known to be a backdoor, this clinches that.

        jebus... is Intel that incompetent, or are they just in bed with the likes of the CIA and don't give a shit about users?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          This REALLY shows why Intel doesn't know what they are doing or take security seriously. Putting a product that they trust so little that they are ashamed to disclose anything about it at the core of controlling their CPUs is just incompetent. It's widely been known to be a backdoor, this clinches that.

          jebus... is Intel that incompetent, or are they just in bed with the likes of the CIA and don't give a shit about users?

          Why not both?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @dashrender said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            This REALLY shows why Intel doesn't know what they are doing or take security seriously. Putting a product that they trust so little that they are ashamed to disclose anything about it at the core of controlling their CPUs is just incompetent. It's widely been known to be a backdoor, this clinches that.

            jebus... is Intel that incompetent, or are they just in bed with the likes of the CIA and don't give a shit about users?

            Why not both?

            Point.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda
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              Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

              6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
              Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
              Intel Xeon Scalable processors
              Intel Xeon W processors
              Intel Atom C3000 processors
              Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
              Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
              Celeron N and J series processors
              
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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                  AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

                    6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
                    Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
                    Intel Xeon Scalable processors
                    Intel Xeon W processors
                    Intel Atom C3000 processors
                    Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
                    Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
                    Celeron N and J series processors
                    

                    Yes, that is correct.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                      AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                      Time to move everything to ARM.

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                        Time to move everything to ARM.

                        This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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                          @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                          AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                          Time to move everything to ARM.

                          This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                          No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

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                          • PenguinWranglerP
                            PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                            AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                            Time to move everything to ARM.

                            This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                            No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                            I was thinking more bold business moves. There are things they could do that would really help make that happen. It would take their leadership to act boldly and take risk.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                              AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                              Time to move everything to ARM.

                              This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                              No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                              The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                                AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                                Time to move everything to ARM.

                                This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                                No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                                The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                                For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @momurda
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                                  @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                  Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

                                  6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
                                  Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
                                  Intel Xeon Scalable processors
                                  Intel Xeon W processors
                                  Intel Atom C3000 processors
                                  Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
                                  Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
                                  Celeron N and J series processors
                                  

                                  huh, I think that means less than half my machines are on that list.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                                    AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                                    Time to move everything to ARM.

                                    This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                                    No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                                    The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                                    For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                                    exactly!

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                                      AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                                      Time to move everything to ARM.

                                      This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                                      No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                                      The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                                      For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                                      Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                                        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                                        Time to move everything to ARM.

                                        This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                                        No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                                        The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                                        For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                                        Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

                                        It's octocore, 8GB machines.

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                                        • S
                                          StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

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                                            StorageNinja Vendor @StorageNinja
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                                            @storageninja

                                            ARM also attacking HPC.

                                            Isam_bench1.png

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