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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

      It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.

      That's not too bad. Of course, I'd argue that it would be way cheaper to get four people together, and get a "real" server in colocation and split it. Each of you getting way more than this.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
        last edited by dafyre

        @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

        @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

        It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.

        That's not too bad. Of course, I'd argue that it would be way cheaper to get four people together, and get a "real" server in colocation and split it. Each of you getting way more than this.

        Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Nah. I don't want 3 other people mad at me when reboot the host randomly.

        It really isn't bad, and as far as I can tell, they've had amazing reliability at the facility.

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        • R3dPand4R
          R3dPand4
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          🙂

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

            I've found them both really easy 🙂

            XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

            How so?

            In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

            KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

            Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

            You can do just SSH. But QEMU has the option for HTTP/HTTPS as well.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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              @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

              @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

              @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

              It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.

              That's not too bad. Of course, I'd argue that it would be way cheaper to get four people together, and get a "real" server in colocation and split it. Each of you getting way more than this.

              Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Nah. I don't want 3 other people mad at me when reboot the host randomly.

              It really isn't bad, and as far as I can tell, they've had amazing reliability at the facility.

              I bet that they are using something like SM Blades.

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                StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
                last edited by scottalanmiller

                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.

                That's not too bad. Of course, I'd argue that it would be way cheaper to get four people together, and get a "real" server in colocation and split it. Each of you getting way more than this.

                Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Nah. I don't want 3 other people mad at me when reboot the host randomly.

                It really isn't bad, and as far as I can tell, they've had amazing reliability at the facility.

                I bet that they are using something like SM Blades.

                Youtube Video

                It's actually pretty cool.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Ah, custom blades.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @StorageNinja
                    last edited by

                    @storageninja Nice find!

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
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                      Wow, this really is major news. I'll third that this might be the IT announcement of the year.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
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                        Where are all those "Citrix'ites" that always puffed their chests talking 'bout how great XS was since AWS used it!
                        I should go troll them on the XS boards!

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @StorageNinja
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                          @storageninja said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.

                          That's not too bad. Of course, I'd argue that it would be way cheaper to get four people together, and get a "real" server in colocation and split it. Each of you getting way more than this.

                          Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Nah. I don't want 3 other people mad at me when reboot the host randomly.

                          It really isn't bad, and as far as I can tell, they've had amazing reliability at the facility.

                          I bet that they are using something like SM Blades.

                          Youtube Video

                          It's actually pretty cool.

                          that is pretty cool. does the technician at the end really need a hard hat?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            huh - water cooling at the server level.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                              This is enormous news. This, more than anything, signals the end of the road for Xen. A very sad day.

                              That is huge... how did I miss this the past few days?

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                                Kris_K @StorageNinja
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                                Same OVH that went down today, because they lost power and none of their generators (if they had any) powered on?...

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee
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                                  btw, isn't the Google Cloud Platform based entirely on KVM?

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                    huh - water cooling at the server level.

                                    Yeah, a lot of datacenters use liquid cooling of some sort. It generally saves money on cooling, so is an easy choice to make for companies that run their own datacenters. Obviously not at all popular with colo places as it generally requires special cooling blocks on the servers.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      huh - water cooling at the server level.

                                      Yeah, a lot of datacenters use liquid cooling of some sort. It generally saves money on cooling, so is an easy choice to make for companies that run their own datacenters. Obviously not at all popular with colo places as it generally requires special cooling blocks on the servers.

                                      I totally get water cooling of the space, I've just never seen it actually go inside each server before - I mean I think it makes sense, at least on the surface.

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                                      • momurdaM
                                        momurda
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                                        As others, i dont know how i missed this.
                                        As one of the few remaining XS guys i suppose i need to start looking for other options now.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @momurda
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                                          @momurda said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          As others, i dont know how i missed this.
                                          As one of the few remaining XS guys i suppose i need to start looking for other options now.

                                          I think they posted it today, and changed the post date in the database ^_^

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @momurda
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                                            @momurda said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                            As others, i dont know how i missed this.
                                            As one of the few remaining XS guys i suppose i need to start looking for other options now.

                                            I'd say XS is still a decent product if it does everything you need. They've just been hobbling it more and more over the years, it's hard to like a product that keeps taking basic functionality away.

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