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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Has there been an update to the firewall? What type of firewall/UTM device do you have?

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      • momurdaM
        momurda
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        Watchguard XTM 515 v11.12.4
        On Monday when comcast wasnt working well i started setting up the CenturyLink fiber connection for general use. Currently both are configured in Round Robin Multi Wan, with a weight of 10 for Clink and 1 for Comcast.
        This seems to be working as intended, though it could be the problem.
        The rules for https client policy are From Any Trusted To Any-External.

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        • momurdaM
          momurda
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          Just noticed lots of these in the log
          2017-11-08 09:32:09 https-proxy 0x8694798-42959 574: 192.168.90.47:52755 -> 216.58.194.198:443 [A txr] {R} | 584: 192.168.90.47:52755 -> 216.58.194.198:443 [!B fc] {B}: failed to connect B channel
          Will report further.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I've been seeing this a lot on SW, but nowhere else.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller Yes spiceworks is a big problem. Funny i cant get there on my workstation, but a vm i log into gets there no problem. It seems to be some sort of random routing issue. I am trying to force my connection to spiceworks over 2nd WAN as a test but no luck so far.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @momurda
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                @momurda said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                @scottalanmiller Yes spiceworks is a big problem. Funny i cant get there on my workstation, but a vm i log into gets there no problem. It seems to be some sort of random routing issue. I am trying to force my connection to spiceworks over 2nd WAN as a test but no luck so far.

                Most likely, IMHO, they have some app servers on the broken code base and some not.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper
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                  Do you have any kind of proxy in line?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    If your load balancer is not working right, you will have problems like this. I would turn it off first.

                    You cannot have SSL going out mulitple connections

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch This seems to work.
                      May i ask though, what is the point of having 2 WAN connections if unable to use them at the same time? Currently there are a couple always on vpn tunnels through Comcast connection as i havent had time to move them to new CLink yet.
                      Certainly i must have just set something up incorrectly with Multi WAN setup? Though it seems simple enough.
                      Perhaps if i force the client https policy From Any Trusted To CenturyLink WAN instead of Any-External.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @momurda
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                        @momurda said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                        @jaredbusch This seems to work.
                        May i ask though, what is the point of having 2 WAN connections if unable to use them at the same time?

                        Failover.

                        Or other types of load balancing that don't split a single connection.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @scottalanmiller said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                          @momurda said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                          @jaredbusch This seems to work.
                          May i ask though, what is the point of having 2 WAN connections if unable to use them at the same time?

                          Failover.

                          Or other types of load balancing that don't split a single connection.

                          Or as I said, you have your load balancing misconfigured. You can easily load balance as long as all connections from a single internal IP always use the same connection when going to the same destination.

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda
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                            Ive changed teh Weight of CLink connection to 100 and left Comcast at 1.
                            This has mitigated the issue. The B Channel timeouts still happen in the logs but so infrequently that I nor any user has seen the 'waiting for TLS handshake' issue for hours now when browsing.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato @momurda
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                              @momurda said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                              ight of CLink connection to 100 and left Comcast at 1.
                              This has mitigated the issue. The B Channel timeouts still happen in the logs but so infrequently that I nor any user has seen the 'waiting for TLS handshake' issue for hours now when browsing.

                              Are you using round robin for the load balancing?

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                              • momurdaM
                                momurda
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                                Yes

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @momurda
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                                  @momurda Okay, so you need to make sure to use "User Source and Destination IP Address binding" That is what I use on my Sonicwall.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @dbeato
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                                    @dbeato said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                                    @momurda Okay, so you need to make sure to use "User Source and Destination IP Address binding" That is what I use on my Sonicwall.

                                    Yep. On Ubiquiti you need to set the load-balance group to sticky. https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205145990-EdgeRouter-Dual-WAN-Load-Balance-Feature I've done this at a number of places now, works great.

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                                    • momurdaM
                                      momurda
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                                      In the Watchguard, there is no User Source and Desination IP Address Binding option. There is a Sticky Connections option.
                                      So i think in WG my best option is to force all connections to use CLink at the Policy level. Whats interesting about this setup you can do this for any firewall policy, regardless of your MultiWan settings. I havent enabled this, but it would look like below(this is a snip that i setup but didnt apply to WG):
                                      0_1510247420220_52e49cdb-65cc-4e57-b1b1-d693f774adfe-image.png

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                                      • dbeatoD
                                        dbeato @momurda
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                                        @momurda Enable Sticky as below
                                        0_1510248928276_2017-11-09_1235.png
                                        https://www.watchguard.com/help/docs/wsm/xtm_11/en-us/content/en-us/nat/server_load_balancing_config_c.html

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @momurda
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @momurda said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                                          In the Watchguard, there is no User Source and Desination IP Address Binding option. There is a Sticky Connections option.
                                          So i think in WG my best option is to force all connections to use CLink at the Policy level. Whats interesting about this setup you can do this for any firewall policy, regardless of your MultiWan settings. I havent enabled this, but it would look like below(this is a snip that i setup but didnt apply to WG):

                                          It depends on what you want. Your stated goal was load balancing. The watchguard can do it if you set it up properly. You did not do it properly and had problems. This is not a surprise.

                                          But that does not mean to then not use load balancing at all.

                                          It mean go back and RTFM and set it up properly.

                                          Conveniently, you do not even have to RTFM because @dbeato has posted the instructions for you.

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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda
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                                            @jaredbusch said in 'Waiting for TLS handshake' randomly, constantly since Monday:

                                            .

                                            Ive already set sticky connections in the Global MultiWan.
                                            The override option for this policy cant be enabled.

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