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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@irj said in YouTube TV:
This was a very interesting read. It seems like the OP @bigbear is a TV enthusiast and enjoys the structure of traditional tv. TV is a major portion of his life and he likes to discuss TV shows with friends as they are released.
Yes, we definitely have totally different television experiences. What I'm surprised by is that even if I enjoyed the traditional "what it when we release it" style of the past, I've never had the option of the discussion bits. I understand the desire for this and could see it being influential. But it is the total lack of anyone to do this with in real life that makes me surprised that he has a circle of friends that all stay back on legacy television, all watch the same shows, all resist time shifting, and all then discuss them. In the Venn Diagram of television watching, it's a very unique niche.
Minor time shifting, watching within the same week, still allows most social groups to have a close enough followup conversation.
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@irj said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@irj said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@irj said in YouTube TV:
This was a very interesting read. It seems like the OP @bigbear is a TV enthusiast and enjoys the structure of traditional tv. TV is a major portion of his life and he likes to discuss TV shows with friends as they are released.
Yes, we definitely have totally different television experiences. What I'm surprised by is that even if I enjoyed the traditional "what it when we release it" style of the past, I've never had the option of the discussion bits. I understand the desire for this and could see it being influential. But it is the total lack of anyone to do this with in real life that makes me surprised that he has a circle of friends that all stay back on legacy television, all watch the same shows, all resist time shifting, and all then discuss them. In the Venn Diagram of television watching, it's a very unique niche.
The amount of entertainment value @bigbear gets seems to be well worth the price, though. For me, I couldn't spend $35 a month when I have all the on demand choices. I will go out and buy other things that costs much more than $35 to do what I like to do for entertainment. So i believe his argument makes sense for him.
I'm not even talking about the price. I'm talking about the possibility. What he does, no matter what money I spent, I couldn't do.
Right, but we all have hobbies that someone else wouldn't do.
Still doesn't address my surprise. There is no question that I personally don't find television interesting like this. My point is that I couldn't find others that would in order to enable this activity.
I've got lots of hobbies shared by no one. That's easy and normal. It's finding local friends who share those unusual hobbies that is unlikely.
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If my wife and I really cut the cord, I think we'd pretty much never watch TV together again. There are several shows that we both like, but we watch TV when the other is not around, and forcing ourselves to not watch a show on our own schedule, waiting for the other person would quickly become frustrating for both of us.
This issue becomes even worse when you're talking about binge watching something. Let's assume we stopped watching NCIS on a weekly basis, and waited for it to be released on Netflix. Now once it's out, we're going to binge watch it.. the scheduling issues would be frustrating.
This leads right back to my early conversation (different thread) about how she wants to at least see me 95% of the time while we are both home.. which means one or both of us have to use headphones to watch, likely on a small screen, a show.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
(different thread) about how she wants to at least see me 95% of the time while we are both home..
I missed that one...
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
If my wife and I really cut the cord, I think we'd pretty much never watch TV together again. There are several shows that we both like, but we watch TV when the other is not around, and forcing ourselves to not watch a show on our own schedule, waiting for the other person would quickly become frustrating for both of us.
This issue becomes even worse when you're talking about binge watching something. Let's assume we stopped watching NCIS on a weekly basis, and waited for it to be released on Netflix. Now once it's out, we're going to binge watch it.. the scheduling issues would be frustrating.
This leads right back to my early conversation (different thread) about how she wants to at least see me 95% of the time while we are both home.. which means one or both of us have to use headphones to watch, likely on a small screen, a show.
But the scheduling isn't frustrating now? How does "making it easier" lead to it being harder? Something doesn't add up here. It's being able to watch on demand that makes scheduling easier - in every possible way. You always have the choice of a forced watch time the same as before. So your point can't be true as it only adds options, takes none away.
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@reid-cooper said in YouTube TV:
@jmoore said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@rojoloco said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@bigbear said in YouTube TV:
2.) Shows we watch on FX, AMC, NBC etc (Walking Dead, The Voice, Modern Family, Mr Robot (theres at least 20)
I only have Netflix and Amazon and I have the Walking Dead, Modern Family, etc. Definitely not The Voice, thank goodness, no idea about Mr Robot. Network shows that are good enough for Netflix to want, they get. Just because it's also on a network doesn't mean you won't get it some other way.
Sure months later.
And? That was my point, who cares? There is no one to discuss it with, and once you don't start when it first releases the impact is literally zero. There is no real world negative here.
I think If I stopped watching TV according to a network schedule, I'd probably stop watching most TV in general. Not sure I am ready to go that route.
yeah it's a me thing.All bonus for me. That's how I know it is that bad, I wouldn't watch it if I had to select it.
yeah, well in that regards... I'd be happy to watch history channel, etc more than I do, but my wife hates those shows... and since I already mentioned that she wants to be in the same room as much as humanly possible.. we watch something that is tolerable by both of us.
Man, I'm glad my gf knows to watch the shows I won't like when we're not together. We have lots of shows we both like, so plenty of stuff to watch together. She has kinda warped my Netflix cue though...
You can set up different profiles on Netflix to keep that from happening. We have all four of us in the house with our own profiles. Works great.
I did that but everyone keeps using my profile. I come home and my suggestions are little baby time, puppy dog pals, chuggington, and a thousand shows liek them
Make one that isn't you and isnt' the default.
thanks I will try that
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
If my wife and I really cut the cord, I think we'd pretty much never watch TV together again. There are several shows that we both like, but we watch TV when the other is not around, and forcing ourselves to not watch a show on our own schedule, waiting for the other person would quickly become frustrating for both of us.
This issue becomes even worse when you're talking about binge watching something. Let's assume we stopped watching NCIS on a weekly basis, and waited for it to be released on Netflix. Now once it's out, we're going to binge watch it.. the scheduling issues would be frustrating.
This leads right back to my early conversation (different thread) about how she wants to at least see me 95% of the time while we are both home.. which means one or both of us have to use headphones to watch, likely on a small screen, a show.
But the scheduling isn't frustrating now? How does "making it easier" lead to it being harder? Something doesn't add up here. It's being able to watch on demand that makes scheduling easier - in every possible way. You always have the choice of a forced watch time the same as before. So your point can't be true as it only adds options, takes none away.
The weekly schedule keep some shows semi synced for us.. i.e. NCIS is on Tuesdays. If we are both home, we watch it 30 mins after it starts so we can skip the commercials. If either of us is gone, the one that's home will wait until both people are available. Rarely do we need to wait more than 2 days.
Sure you could do this with binging shows as well, but it's much more difficult to get us together for enough periods to get through it.. but individually we could get through it in short order.
Another way to word it is - with the schedule, we have semi-forced time together watching the shows.
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The weekly schedule keep some shows semi synced for us.. i.e. NCIS is on Tuesdays. If we are both home, we watch it 30 mins after it starts so we can skip the commercials. If either of us is gone, the one that's home will wait until both people are available. Rarely do we need to wait more than 2 days.
So keep that schedule, easy peasy.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Sure you could do this with binging shows as well, but it's much more difficult to get us together for enough periods to get through it.. but individually we could get through it in short order.
Another way to word it is - with the schedule, we have semi-forced time together watching the shows.
What you are saying is, you are willing to pay someone to force you to both dislike how you watch television because, given the choice, you'd both rather not do what you are doing, even if you could keep doing it exactly the same, but cheaper?
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
Those aren't the issues. The issues seem, from your description, to revolve 100% around some emotional reaction to paying for the shows versus paying less for them. In both cases, you can keep the same schedule. But in one, you've paid more, and in the other you've paid less and have more options (that you can ignore.)
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Sure you could do this with binging shows as well, but it's much more difficult to get us together for enough periods to get through it.. but individually we could get through it in short order.
Another way to word it is - with the schedule, we have semi-forced time together watching the shows.
What you are saying is, you are willing to pay someone to force you to both dislike how you watch television because, given the choice, you'd both rather not do what you are doing, even if you could keep doing it exactly the same, but cheaper?
I would prefer to get all episodes at once, but also would prefer to see them as they air vs waiting a year. If I lived alone, however, I dont know that I would even watch TV. Im not even sure I would have the internet at this point. The spirit of Big Bear would likely guide me up into the Tennessee mountains.
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@bigbear said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Sure you could do this with binging shows as well, but it's much more difficult to get us together for enough periods to get through it.. but individually we could get through it in short order.
Another way to word it is - with the schedule, we have semi-forced time together watching the shows.
What you are saying is, you are willing to pay someone to force you to both dislike how you watch television because, given the choice, you'd both rather not do what you are doing, even if you could keep doing it exactly the same, but cheaper?
I would prefer to get all episodes at once, but also would prefer to see them as they air vs waiting a year. If I lived alone, however, I dont know that I would even watch TV. Im not even sure I would have the internet at this point. The spirit of Big Bear would likely guide me up into the Tennessee mountains.
The trick is... you wait before starting the show. Then those of us on Netflix or whatever don't have any "waiting" thing that people keep talking about. That whole effect is less, rather than more.
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My wife and I were just discussing this thread and she mentioned how we lived for our first four years of marriage with no TV at all, not just no cable, but no Netflix or anything either. I had forgotten, we used to watch DVDs on a little Mac Mini, that was all that we had. We'd watch video games that each other played, but had no TV.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
My wife and I were just discussing this thread and she mentioned how we lived for our first four years of marriage with no TV at all, not just no cable, but no Netflix or anything either. I had forgotten, we used to watch DVDs on a little Mac Mini, that was all that we had. We'd watch video games that each other played, but had no TV.
No OTA TV?
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The weekly schedule keep some shows semi synced for us.. i.e. NCIS is on Tuesdays. If we are both home, we watch it 30 mins after it starts so we can skip the commercials. If either of us is gone, the one that's home will wait until both people are available. Rarely do we need to wait more than 2 days.
So keep that schedule, easy peasy.
lol - HAHAHA yeah... you know binging doesn't work like that.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
Those aren't the issues. The issues seem, from your description, to revolve 100% around some emotional reaction to paying for the shows versus paying less for them. In both cases, you can keep the same schedule. But in one, you've paid more, and in the other you've paid less and have more options (that you can ignore.)
No I can't keep the same schedule. At a bare mimimum I have to wait until summer when Netflix gets the show.
My wife has already been talking about getting rid of cable... So I'm guessing we'll cut it during xmas break and see how the first part of next year is only with streaming services.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
Those aren't the issues. The issues seem, from your description, to revolve 100% around some emotional reaction to paying for the shows versus paying less for them. In both cases, you can keep the same schedule. But in one, you've paid more, and in the other you've paid less and have more options (that you can ignore.)
No I can't keep the same schedule. At a bare mimimum I have to wait until summer when Netflix gets the show.
My wife has already been talking about getting rid of cable... So I'm guessing we'll cut it during xmas break and see how the first part of next year is only with streaming services.
Just unplug the Cox set top box and hide it. Way easier than cancelling service and readding it.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
My wife and I were just discussing this thread and she mentioned how we lived for our first four years of marriage with no TV at all, not just no cable, but no Netflix or anything either. I had forgotten, we used to watch DVDs on a little Mac Mini, that was all that we had. We'd watch video games that each other played, but had no TV.
You're not a millennial, but you definitely behalf like them in some respects.
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@jaredbusch said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
Those aren't the issues. The issues seem, from your description, to revolve 100% around some emotional reaction to paying for the shows versus paying less for them. In both cases, you can keep the same schedule. But in one, you've paid more, and in the other you've paid less and have more options (that you can ignore.)
No I can't keep the same schedule. At a bare mimimum I have to wait until summer when Netflix gets the show.
My wife has already been talking about getting rid of cable... So I'm guessing we'll cut it during xmas break and see how the first part of next year is only with streaming services.
Just unplug the Cox set top box and hide it. Way easier than cancelling service and readding it.
yeah we'll see.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
The long of it is that it's just a bad situation no matter what - like you wanting more family contact than you get, even from three people in close proximity to you, yet those three what the amount of alone time to be the same as it is now or more. I want more alone time, she wants less.
Those aren't the issues. The issues seem, from your description, to revolve 100% around some emotional reaction to paying for the shows versus paying less for them. In both cases, you can keep the same schedule. But in one, you've paid more, and in the other you've paid less and have more options (that you can ignore.)
No I can't keep the same schedule. At a bare mimimum I have to wait until summer when Netflix gets the show.
You are not following, at all. You wait the mandatory delay time for a new show, then you get access all at once, then you decide on the watching schedule. Want it "every Tuesday at 8PM" just like before? Then you do that. You lose nothing. Literally nothing. You don't notice the delay up front because you've not seen the show yet. And once that initital delay is absorbed (again, a "you don't notice" delay) then you get your old schedule back PLUS more options.
There is no downside here except the water cooler effect.
